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Will the stream lag?...

A linux based OS for gaming? GL with that. Instead of streaming they should have baked in Crossover or setup some other kind of WINE.

It didn't say it would stream.... Rather I should clear up that from what I'm reading it states the SteamOS will run on whatever you install it on. and that's where your games will be but there's a feature to stream games installed on your mac or PC that's separate from the Steam OS. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding though.

What I'd like to know is where do you install the Steam OS? Do you have to buy your own hardware? What will the requirements be? etc...

"You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. Just turn on your existing computer and run Steam as you always have - then your SteamOS machine can stream those games over your home network straight to your TV!"


Moron alert???...

All I'm saying is there's no streaming over the net so if you're asking about lag you must be clueless.

Lol wut?...

yeah because there is no way for it to lag over a LAN...you're only sending video that would normally go over a 10Gbps HDMI through a 1Gbps Ethernet..or wireless.

Guess the moron hasn't tried to airplay a game on Apple TV...lol poor ppl ...

Crikey & clueless about sums it up then?

shaft wrote:yeah because there is no way for it to lag over a LAN...you're only sending video that would normally go over a 10Gbps HDMI through a 1Gbps Ethernet..or wireless.

With compression and everything you never need as much as 1Gbps throughput.
An uncompressed 1080p video signal takes a little over 1 gigabit per second of data. With appropriate compression, you're getting a much lower bitrate.
WiFi is a bit tricky though, because even 802.11n routers are advertised as being capable of 600Mbps, but in practice you're never getting that.

I can't see Steam releasing an OS designed to stream from your home pc to your tv that lags out with modern day equipment. The generic router your provider gives you should be more than sufficient and if it isn't then something is horribly wrong and that will be the least of your concerns.

Besides, if you're gonna get the Steam OS why even bother streaming games from your PC?

Because there's a massive back-catalogue of games on Steam that are unlikely to ever have a Linux version released?

Or, hook up budget hardware running SteamOS to your TV and stream games to there from your behemoth gaming PC that's located in another room.

^This

I guess I'm still not quite sure what the Steam OS hardware entails. Right now I have no idea what their plan is, with the info out there now it sounds to me like you supply your own hardware. Thus your behemoth gaming pc would actually have the Steam OS installed on it.

As for linux support, if Steam doesn't make all their games run on it why choose that as your native OS?

If there's somekind of steambox for this steam OS then I dunno. Frankly so far the PR for this is horrible.

You do realise that Valve don't develop all of the games on Steam, right?
Now with that understanding, maybe you can see that a lot of games that are available through Steam were made by developers that no longer exist. Who's going to port these games to Linux?
That's where streaming from a Windows machine comes in useful.

True but you're still not gonna get lag streaming something from your PC to your TV unless you have some really bad hardware.

I was referring to streaming from the net, like gaikai.

also, there is no SteamOS hardware.

Κracus wrote:True but you're still not gonna get lag streaming something from your PC to your TV unless you have some really bad hardware.

I was referring to streaming from the net, like gaikai.

u dont what the fuck u r talking about...

Also, Kracus, Steam is not a "them". Steam is a piece of software, developed by Valve Corporation.

And I think Valve's goal with SteamOS is to create an OS that removes some of the excess "fat" normally associated with conventional PC operating systems so that you're left with a streamlined, lightweight OS that's optimal for gaming

MKJ wrote:also, there is no SteamOS hardware.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/15044 ... -box-cheap

It may be one of the remaining announcements.

indeed. there prolly will be a steamBox. but that's not what Kracus' reasoning vis-a-vis SteamOS was about.

Eraser wrote:Also, Kracus, Steam is not a "them". Steam is a piece of software, developed by Valve Corporation.

And I think Valve's goal with SteamOS is to create an OS that removes some of the excess "fat" normally associated with conventional PC operating systems so that you're left with a streamlined, lightweight OS that's optimal for gaming

I never said it was anything else and yeah that's exactly what it sounds like. Cheap hardware that'll run games well which leads me to think that they're gonna make hardware for this OS they're releasing.

And this is the crux of what I'm saying about streaming. If you develop hardware to run Steam OS who's sole purpose is to run games hosted on Steam then you would have to make damn sure those games are compatible with your OS. Thus, you're going to install those games on your Steambox and not your gaming rig.

Now if you WANT to stream games from your PC through the steambox you can do that, lag isn't going to be an issue since it's all in house BUT... How's that going to function in relation to your mouse/keyboard setup? Why not just use your monitor if you're going to use your PC? Will the games you stream from you PC even be compatible with the steambox controller?

I'm guessing even though Valve is making this an option or feature it's not really going to be it's main function. Streaming games is something a very small percentage of people will be doing. Most people will be installing the games on the Steambox running the Steam OS and that's gonna be it. I'd assume the plan is to port a large percentage of games currently on steam to run on the Steam OS and make it a requirement for any future games. Not doing so and forcing people to stream it from their gaming rig is going to kill the steambox otherwise.

No one would buy an xbox or PS if you had to configure your PC to run the games in the background. It's too complicated for your average joe, like scared.

Lol wut?...

Hey Mr. Tough Guy Kracus... maybe you can try wrapping your head around some basic reading comprehension skills instead of wrapping your head around that lead pipe. It might even help with your reputation for being incredibly stupid.