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1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:10 pm
by plained
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:32 pm
by Κracus
I have a hard time believing that...
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:33 pm
by plained
me too
who actually believes surveys ey?
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:52 pm
by Κracus
Not Stephen Harper.
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:56 pm
by seremtan
Only 66 percent of people in a 2005 European Union poll answered the basic astronomy answer correctly.
i wonder what % of NPR reporters have a decent sub-editor?
also, why did the NSF wait so long to publish the poll? sounds dodgy
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:17 pm
by xer0s
plained taking up the slack for GFY?
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:20 pm
by Κracus
This isn't a cheeseburger thread.
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:22 pm
by xer0s
No, but it is a lol Americans thread. Even though the "survey" is bullshit...
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:10 pm
by EtUL
Anyone know where to find the text of this? All I can find are news sites and blogs that link back to each other.
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:36 pm
by plained
this comment from the artice was kinda cute AND cheeky i thought lol
"Dolphins still believe the world revolves around fish and they're still doing OK."
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:04 pm
by shaft
this makes me miss GFY
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:35 pm
by vileliquid1026
shaft wrote:this makes me miss GFY
I found an article
here and also
here that discuss our original topic and its findings a bit. Of course this '1 in 4' article is booming in the shadow of the Nye vs Ham debate.
Speaking of that, because now I am watching it, how can anyone really believe in Creationism? I guess that's easy for me to say from someone who doesn't hold religion. Is there anyone here that honestly believes in creationism?
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:39 pm
by shaft
scared? does..
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:44 pm
by vileliquid1026
Should have assumed that seeing as how they obviously don't believe in birth control.
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:17 pm
by Transient
seremtan wrote:Only 66 percent of people in a 2005 European Union poll answered the basic astronomy answer correctly.
also, why did the NSF wait so long to publish the poll? sounds dodgy
What's dodgy about spending a little over a year to fact-check, format, cite and publish a report as big as this one? Chapter 7 alone is 50+ pages long.
xer0s wrote:No, but it is a lol Americans thread. Even though the "survey" is bullshit...
What's bullshit about it?
EtUL wrote:Anyone know where to find the text of this? All I can find are news sites and blogs that link back to each other.
It's the second link of the article...
http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind14/c ... -7/c07.pdf
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:36 pm
by EtUL
Transient wrote:
EtUL wrote:Anyone know where to find the text of this? All I can find are news sites and blogs that link back to each other.
It's the second link of the article...
http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind14/c ... -7/c07.pdf
Doh lol...I clicked the first one and it just went to their main site so I assumed the second link was to a site for that conference.
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:06 am
by Doombrain
Κracus wrote:I have a hard time believing that...
Welcome to our world
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:59 pm
by obsidian
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:52 pm
by xer0s
Transient wrote:
What's bullshit about it?
There are generally many problems with these surveys. Most of the time there are set questions with set answers and you usually can't expand on your answer. Most surveys are limited to certain groups, such as housewives (Geoff), working mothers, the elderly, and students. Also, think about it, how many people really want to do a survey, and if you do actually do it, you'll be aggravated and may even give then false answers just for spite or to make a joke about it...
Re: 1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth, Surve
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:43 pm
by Transient
How could you expand on answering that the Sun revolves around the Earth to not sound like a complete moron? If you answer that question wrong, there's no need for a follow-up. And how exactly are they limited to certain demographics? I'm pretty sure they mix things up a bit to get a diverse sample size. It's the National Science Foundation, after all. If people don't want to participate, they can say no thanks and hang up or walk away. I would argue the results they get are more accurate since only those actually interested in giving answers will bother to stick around.
But yes, there are plenty of misleading surveys out there that are dubious, but I don't see this one being one of them.