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any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:16 pm
by Tsakali
so I got this monoprice 30" ips monitor for work,
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=10235
looks great for the price overall, but the colors are off. I don't mind getting a spider or something to calibrate it, but I think I read somewhere that connecting through a display port might be an issue with calibrating it correctly?
My work system is a loptop with only a display port (an ati based system, no nvidia) so I'm kind of stuck using that.
is there a known issue with this type of connection or will a calibrator do the job just the same? I'm on win 7
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:21 pm
by Tsakali
I've tried it, but for some reason, I can't seem to get it right manually. I set one thing up right, and I mess up another

Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:20 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
have you tried fixing the problem? Perhaps with a degauss?
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:37 pm
by Eraser
Is it an old CRT from 1972? Julios might be of help then.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:42 pm
by plained
mat may have some good insight
not sure if he does winbox stuff tho
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:53 pm
by SoM
post on techreport.com u'll get your answer, some ppl have those monitors there and are all techies
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:29 pm
by SOAPboy
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:22 pm
by Tsakali
thnx for the links, I'll try to give that online calibrator a go.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:49 pm
by Doombrain
Both of those are shit. You'd be better off doing it by eye.
Get a i1pro 2 if you're rich, or a i1 colormonkey.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:51 pm
by Tsakali
wah? what if I don't want to spend double the money the monitor costs just to calibrate it?
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:56 pm
by [xeno]Julios
An i1 pro 2 (spectroradiometer) will provide good accuracy at mid to high luminance levels, but below a certain level, it's more or less useless. A colorimeter can read at much lower luminance levels.
A popular option is to get a decent consumer grade colorimeter and profile it against a spectroradiometer. Right now, the i1d3 is an excellent colorimeter, and depending on the spectral properties of your display, may already have built in offsets that make it suitable for your display, in which case you wouldn't need to profile it.
I would avoid the spyder. If u choose i1d3 (i1 display pro) Get the OEM version, as it will work with more software.
What kind of On screen display (OSD) controls does your display have for color management?
As for displayport changing the picture, don't know anything about that issue. But it's good practice to calibrate in the same environment that you're going to be using the monitor. So as long as you calibrate the display using the displayport connection, then all should be good. Unless, of course, the displayport connection is screwing things up so much that accurate color reproduction is impossible.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:02 am
by [xeno]Julios
Eraser wrote:Is it an old CRT from 1972? Julios might be of help then.
my FW900s were manufactured post 2000, and represent the pinnacle of CRT technology

Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:54 am
by SoM
looking at the specs, its only DVI just find your monitor calibration and go from there
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:15 am
by Tsakali
Julios I might need to wait till the morning to tell you for sure, but from what I remember, it only has a single bar for R a bar for green and one for blue, then it has a contrast and a brightness bar, but people are saying that the contrast bar is not really doing anything through a display port connection, and I think they are right. No other relevant settings that I could see , it's pretty simple.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:17 am
by Tsakali
SoM wrote:looking at the specs, its only DVI just find your monitor calibration and go from there
it's not only dvi, i think that's the cheaper version.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:23 am
by SoM
take a pic of the back inputs
the link u posted dont list displayport, and bits are bits, so find the color calibration on your monitor itself
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:30 am
by andyman
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:have you tried fixing the problem? Perhaps with a degauss?
i lolled hard
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:57 am
by [xeno]Julios
Tsakali wrote:Julios I might need to wait till the morning to tell you for sure, but from what I remember, it only has a single bar for R a bar for green and one for blue, then it has a contrast and a brightness bar, but people are saying that the contrast bar is not really doing anything through a display port connection, and I think they are right. No other relevant settings that I could see , it's pretty simple.
those RGB controls will help achieve a better grayscale (white point balance), which is key in color reproduction. Doesn't seem like there are any controls that change the primaries (is there anything called sRGB or native or something like that?), but that won't be a problem if the native primaries are more or less on target.
I'm curious, when you say colors are off, can you elaborate a bit? Skin tones are a good reference, as we're good at picking out unnatural skin tones.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:36 am
by mjrpes
julios, how come you know all this shit?
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:44 am
by [xeno]Julios
I kinda went nuts after I got my FW900s. Wanted to learn how to calibrate them, and ended up diving into textbooks on radiometry, colorimetry, and learning about calibration and video standards. I also learned a lot on the avsforums (display calibration subforum) where I post as spacediver.
and of course learned a lot about CRT technology which is like sci fi fantasy shit... I still can't over how fucking ridiculously cool they are. If someone had the idea in their heads about CRT tech, and explained it to someone, they'd come across as a brilliant stoned genius but completely out of their mind. Yet it fucking works amazingly.
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:06 am
by SoM
julz, u always bring up your crt, but he ain't asking about it, it's like ur trying to change his mind to get a crt.
i know you love yours but don't preach, i was very happy with my crt viewsonis pf790 pro, so was RAW, and i'm very happy with my 5ms Acer 22", i still kick ass.

Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:41 am
by [xeno]Julios
I ain't preaching brother.
Just telling it like it is

Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:42 am
by Dark Metal
OCD
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:43 am
by MKJ
Eraser wrote:Is it an old CRT from 1972? Julios might be of help then.
snicker
Re: any monitor calibration gurus around here?
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:21 am
by Κracus
Might be worth checking to make sure the pins on your video cable are all ok. A few times I've had people complain about colors and it turned out the pin was bent and wasn't plugged in and thus was removing a specific color from the screen. Odd problem but it happens.