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Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:20 pm
by Whiskey 7
The Boston bomber got the death penalty.

I say hooray. How say you?
A US jury has unanimously sentenced Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to death for perpetrating one of the bloodiest assaults in America since the September 11, 2001 attacks.

It took the jury more than 14 hours to choose death over life imprisonment on six of the 17 capital counts for the 21-year-old former university student of Chechen descent, who came to the United States as a child.

The same 12-member panel convicted him on April 8 on all 30 counts relating to the April 15, 2013, bombings, the murder of a police officer, a car jacking and a shootout while on the run.

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Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:52 pm
by seremtan
I don't agree with the death penalty, not even for scumbags like him

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:12 pm
by losCHUNK
Same ^

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:32 am
by mrd
Better to do what Norway did to fuck-face island shoot-em-up guy than do a death penalty. Where is the moral and ethical fortitude in a death penalty? Caveman vengeance BS. Its is murica though.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:10 am
by Pext
^ + ^^ + ^^^ - ^^^^

ffs wtf is wrong with you whisk?

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 3:45 am
by obsidian
He's just a product of the ol' days when the sheriff used to drag bandits behind his horse before hanging them from the water tower.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 6:07 am
by Whiskey 7
Pext wrote:^ + ^^ + ^^^ - ^^^^

ffs wtf is wrong with you whisk?
Nothing really :) but you have to admit this was a terrible premeditated act of terrorism, 3 people killed and 264 others wounded, including 17 who lost limbs. That is a lot of victims.

I say the planet is better off without this scum.

It is a emotive topic and maybe I am prompted because of a recent event close to home.
Did anyone (here in the world) hear of the recent execution by firing squad of two Australians in Indonesia? Their execution took 10 years from court conviction for drug smuggling.

I still say some crimes against humanity deserve the death penalty.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 6:16 am
by eepberries
End the death penalty. The last thing we need is more skeletons to fight in the uprising.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:21 am
by Transient
seremtan wrote:I don't agree with the death penalty, not even for scumbags like him
:up:

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:21 am
by seremtan
Whiskey 7 wrote:you have to admit this was a terrible premeditated act of terrorism
nobody has to grudgingly "admit" this because it's obvious. simply reminding people of the enormity of his crime doesn't make an argument for execution

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:25 am
by seremtan
actually, there are circumstances when execution is defensible: when the mere fact of the executed person continuing to draw breath at all (under whatever circumstances) is a threat to the lives of many other people. for instance: Ceausescu. when he was on the run in december 1989, the Securitate were up on rooftops shooting protesters with sniper rifles because they thought the regime - a personality cult centered around Ceausescu - would be restored. by executing him and broadcasting it on TV they put a stop to that, preventing a civil war (along with many deaths)

this guy doesn't even remotely fit that criterion. neither do most evil scumbags

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:08 pm
by saturn
Capital punishment is an ignominious act of prehistoric eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth sentiments that don't belong in modern societies.

It doesn't work as a warning, it doesn't quench your thirst for retaliation, and it's a total shame if the convicted was innocent. Especially since our legal systems are prone to flaws.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:43 pm
by Mat Linnett
Let alone which, it's got to affect whoever administers the punishment.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:48 pm
by YourGrandpa
If he's not executed what do YOU do with him?

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:29 pm
by Eraser
YourGrandpa wrote:If he's not executed what do YOU do with him?
Give him a stern talking to

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 3:05 pm
by obsidian
Tell him he's free to go as soon as he can draw an accurate depiction on Gwamp's head, but he's not allowed to use straight lines or right angles.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 4:41 pm
by seremtan
YourGrandpa wrote:If he's not executed what do YOU do with him?
give him a slap on the wrist, a subscription to the Guardian, and then blame society

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 4:50 pm
by YourGrandpa
So you've got a problem with how the situation is being handled, but no viable alternative?

Typical...

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 4:55 pm
by xer0s
Does it really matter? Kill him, lock him up for life. He's off the streets and can't hurt anyone else. Problem solved...

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:25 pm
by feedback
seremtan wrote:
YourGrandpa wrote:If he's not executed what do YOU do with him?
give him a slap on the wrist, a subscription to the Guardian, and then blame society

Exactly. What I want to know is why his school failed him. How could society force him into these making terrible actions? :alert:

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:44 pm
by seremtan
YourGrandpa wrote:So you've got a problem with how the situation is being handled, but no viable alternative?

Typical...
so you've never heard of life imprisonment, which counts as a 'viable alternative' in the civilised parts of the world?

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:46 pm
by seremtan
feedback wrote:What I want to know is why his school failed him.
i bet his school didn't even have a safe zone or use trigger warnings on books. he's totally the victim here

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:53 pm
by syp0s
saturn wrote:Capital punishment is an ignominious act of prehistoric eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth sentiments that don't belong in modern societies.

It doesn't work as a warning, it doesn't quench your thirst for retaliation, and it's a total shame if the convicted was innocent. Especially since our legal systems are prone to flaws.
More than that though, the fact that a government can have a legal right to kill its citizens is a terrifying thing. I reject the death penalty on those grounds alone.

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:22 pm
by lars63
The thing I don't like about life imprisonment is the cost to the rest of society or the fact that locking someone up isn't going to make it all better. Neither is killing him, (sigh), I don't have any answers though to those problems

Re: Boston bomber got the death penalty.

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:21 pm
by YourGrandpa
seremtan wrote:so you've never heard of life imprisonment, which counts as a 'viable alternative' in the civilised parts of the world?
Yeah, I'm for life in prison too. But I don't think I or anyone should be forced to pay for it. I mean I'm all for those who want to keep this terrorist alive to build a jail cell on their own property, hire armed guards to watch him 24/7, pay for his maintenance, food, electric, plumbing, medical, etc. for the rest of his life. Otherwise, end him and his burden on society.

However, I find it hard to believe that anyone would offer this guy life in prison if ran up and stabbed your family member in the face right in front of you.

IJS.