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audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:41 pm
by plained
i would like to ask you audio people for some opinions on spackers ooops i mean speakers :P

not a surround setup , just some bookshelf ones , for around $300cad a pair

they would be paired with this amp

Pioneer VSX-830-K

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/pio ... f178eben02

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:45 pm
by ToxicBug
What does your room look like?

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:03 pm
by plained
the room is a 12x12 box with wood floor

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:52 pm
by ToxicBug
$300 CAD isn't much for a pair. Also a square room and wooden floor is definitely an issue.

Speaker positioning will be very important in your case, your system will only sound as good as your room and you're already starting with a bit of a disadvantage. Do you have speaker stands?

At the same time, your room is small so you can probably go for a bass-reflex setup. I don't think that you need a lot of power, so you can focus on having a decent range from a two-channel speaker (tweeter+woofer) with good imaging.

I'd look for something used, just make sure it matches your amp's specs.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:58 pm
by AndyW
Sorry if this is not very helpful, but I think the best way is to test some speakers @home.
Some people like their speakers "neutral" some like more bass. It also depends on your position/distance to the speakers.
Maybe try some small KEF, Canton or B&W speakers. ;)
For speaker cable i really like the kimber 4pr, it should be enough for some bookshelf speakers.
Have fun, testing speakers is very cool!
Memphis wrote:Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.
:olo: :up:

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:21 pm
by SoM
save some $ and go with an Onkyo

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:34 pm
by plained
ToxicBug wrote:$300 CAD isn't much for a pair. Also a square room and wooden floor is definitely an issue.

Speaker positioning will be very important in your case, your system will only sound as good as your room and you're already starting with a bit of a disadvantage. Do you have speaker stands?

At the same time, your room is small so you can probably go for a bass-reflex setup. I don't think that you need a lot of power, so you can focus on having a decent range from a two-channel speaker (tweeter+woofer) with good imaging.

I'd look for something used, just make sure it matches your amp's specs.
thx for the reply .yea everything you say makes sense.

i should have been a bit more detailed.

they will be used for 2 channel music listening.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:36 pm
by plained
AndyW wrote:Sorry if this is not very helpful, but I think the best way is to test some speakers @home.
Some people like their speakers "neutral" some like more bass. It also depends on your position/distance to the speakers.
Maybe try some small KEF, Canton or B&W speakers. ;)
For speaker cable i really like the kimber 4pr, it should be enough for some bookshelf speakers.
Have fun, testing speakers is very cool!
Memphis wrote:Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.
:olo: :up:

good brands and advice , unfortunately those brands are unavailable to me here :(

*plus i need to stay reasonably within budget.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:39 pm
by plained
SoM wrote:save some $ and go with an Onkyo
i agree

honestly i was planning Onkyo but anything within my budget did not seem to playback 192k-24bit proper formats from usb stick.

that was really the most important thing

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:41 pm
by plained
i ended up ordering Polk Audio RTIA3 in cherry

i was attracted to the 6.5" driver for 2 channel.

hopefully they will sound good , if not i can waddle my arse closeby to bestbuy and return them

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:34 pm
by Captain
+1 for Polk :up:

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:39 pm
by dubz
Whatever setup you end up with, check out sonarworks speaker/room calibration software.. you measure your rooms frequency response and EQ whatever stands out to make it flat. You can also emulate rooms and other speakers.. some expensive studio monitors have this room correction option already built in, but this is all new tech and very affordable. For 300 bucks you get the software and measuring mic, the result is you save a couple $k on room treatment and a couple more you would spend on speakers that give you a somewhat flat sound...

I made a mistake and bought new. headphones just before i came acros all this because they also have headphone calibration sofrware which gets you a flat response with max 3db peaks.. if you send them your phones they measure it and get you an eq curve that only peaks for 1db.. or you can just buy a set directly from them pre measured with itts unique eq curve...

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:52 pm
by chopov
Have a look at Nubert speakers. High quality for a reasonable price. http://www.nubert.de Iirc there was a discussion about Nuberts some months ago here in the forum...

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:37 am
by Ryoki
Memphis wrote:Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.
:smirk:

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:46 pm
by mrd
Memphis wrote:Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.
lol. Seriously you fuck, write a book. I'd buy it.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:16 pm
by MKJ
Memphis wrote:Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.
Also, AuralMan sounds way too risque.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:14 pm
by plained
dubz wrote:Whatever setup you end up with, check out sonarworks speaker/room calibration software.. you measure your rooms frequency response and EQ whatever stands out to make it flat. You can also emulate rooms and other speakers.. some expensive studio monitors have this room correction option already built in, but this is all new tech and very affordable. For 300 bucks you get the software and measuring mic, the result is you save a couple $k on room treatment and a couple more you would spend on speakers that give you a somewhat flat sound...

I made a mistake and bought new. headphones just before i came acros all this because they also have headphone calibration sofrware which gets you a flat response with max 3db peaks.. if you send them your phones they measure it and get you an eq curve that only peaks for 1db.. or you can just buy a set directly from them pre measured with itts unique eq curve...
thanks for taking the time to post dubz :up:

i am going to educate myself about the stuff you said.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:15 pm
by plained
chopov wrote:Have a look at Nubert speakers. High quality for a reasonable price. http://www.nubert.de Iirc there was a discussion about Nuberts some months ago here in the forum...
they seem ok

there is no way to get them here in canada without doubling the price from tariff and duties

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:24 pm
by shaft
get the sony's!

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:51 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
shaft wrote:get the sony's!

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:21 am
by PhoeniX
plained wrote:good brands and advice , unfortunately those brands are unavailable to me here :(

*plus i need to stay reasonably within budget.

They're probably cheap to import now the pound is through the floor :D.

I have an Onkoyo 7.1 receiver and pretty second-hand Sony front and rear speakers. They sound great for films :shrug:. I'd love to invest in some nice B&W speakers but I'm just not sure it would be worth it for me given I rarely watch films.

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:01 pm
by plained
well theyre germany speakers and i am from canada so the pound thing wont do much.

plus duties dont fluctuate with currency ey :p

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:03 pm
by plained
i myself use some old radioshack 70's mij receiver thing!

it has nice looking transformers in it and it has the metal encased power transistors that i insist on

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:08 pm
by PhoeniX
plained wrote:well theyre germany speakers and i am from canada so the pound thing wont do much.

plus duties dont fluctuate with currency ey :p
KEF and B&W are British :)

Re: audio people questions

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:15 pm
by plained
ah excuse me ey i mistakenly thought you were referring to the Nuberts