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Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:43 pm
by Fjoggs
Yo, long time no see.

Back in the day, there were two mods that let you play around with item placement while in the game. I believe there were two mods that did the same, and I think they were called ICE and Diablos respectively.

Does anyone either have a copy of them, or know where to find them? They were incredibly useful for toying with the layout easily.

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:41 pm
by CZghost
You mean mods that were straight capable of editing BPS files? I though that wasn't quite possible. Or was it just temporary? Anyway, I do not know the names of the mods, nor do I even have copies of them. As far as I know, idTech4 engine let you mess around with sounds while in game...

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:19 am
by Eraser
Doesn't OSP allow to do this?

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:22 am
by Eraser
CZghost wrote:You mean mods that were straight capable of editing BPS files?
No, just runtime replacement of items in game. The BSP just tells the game what weapon should spawn where, but the actual spawning is done by the game code. If you write a mod that simply spawns a railgun whenever the BSP tells it to spawn a shotgun, then that's very well possible.

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:59 pm
by CZghost
Ok. So it's not possible to create a new spawnpoint of entities, you can only change weapon that spawns in predefined position in BSP?

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:55 pm
by Eraser
A mod could do even that. I could code a mod that ignores all the items in the BSP map and just read a text file or some cvar that determines where all items should spawn.

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:28 pm
by v1l3

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:21 pm
by Fjoggs
That's it! Thank you so much. I knew I made the right call when I pm'ed you on steam :D
A friend of mine is wondering if you happen to have this as well v1l3:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=44239


Eraser: AFAIK there's no such feature in OSP. If it's like CPMA however, it lets you load .map files with alternative layouts and use that instead.
These mods lets you actually change the item layout in game (and save to a .map file).

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:11 pm
by obsidian
Now that y'all are back, crack those knuckles and go make some new maps!

Hope you're doing well. What's new in life?

My computer sees less use these days since I'm constantly planning trips to go climbing up some rock face somewhere.

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:28 pm
by Eraser
obsidian wrote:Now that y'all are back, crack those knuckles and go make some new maps!

Yes, master

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:25 am
by v1l3
Fjoggs wrote:A friend of mine is wondering if you happen to have this as well v1l3:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=44239
No, I do not have that

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:44 pm
by Fruity
Hello
Changing spawn items, powerups, weapons, etc. can be modified in ExcessivePlus fashion, I know, because I recently did it on my server.

Re: Long lost mods that let you change item placement in game

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:33 pm
by Hipshot
Never thought about doing the item layout live like that. Pretty smart.