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Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:15 pm
by richfromlondon
Hi,
I opened an existing or well a released map that the game company released a few years after the game went on sale. When I compiled the map, the lighting isn't darker as it would be in the actual ingame level.
What could be the cause of this, this happened with one other level I have tried.
Thank you.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:52 pm
by sst13
You are probably using other compile parameters during the light phase as the original authors did.
pls post your used parameters here.
Also some comparison shots of the exact same spot (view) with "r_lightmap 1" + "r_gamma 1" would be good to identify the differences of the lightmaps. Best way to do this is: stay in a corner and aim at a fixpoint you can remember, during the different shots.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:58 pm
by richfromlondon
It isn't in one place, all the deck is filled with the exact lighting as displayed in the image.
I tried numerous compiles.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:35 pm
by Eraser
You should use the -light option to compile lighting. You've probably only done the BSP phase now, which compiles map geometry.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:49 pm
by richfromlondon
How do I do that, I used two existing maps not from the released maps, so why do these maps not compile like the those?
I don't know about this lighting compile.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:41 pm
by Eraser
In the radiant screenshot of Radiant, use the option
BSP -meta , -vis, -light -fast -filter -super 2
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:39 pm
by richfromlondon
I have tried that, I even tried that again. I have always used the one with filter ending, has always worked okay.
So two map levels with this problem, here is the console read out.
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--- PassagePortalFlow (8088) ---
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creating leaf vis...
Total visible clusters: 235153
Average clusters visible: 150
Writing C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/dec2.bsp
Wrote 4.1 MB (4266420 bytes)
371 seconds elapsed
Disconnecting
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Setting up
Listening...
=== running BSP command ===
"C:/Program Files/GtkRadiant-1.4/q3map2" -v -connect 127.0.0.1:39000 -game ef -fs_basepath "C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force//" -light -fast -filter -super 2 "C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/dec2.map"
Connected.
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Q3Map - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.11
GtkRadiant - v1.4.0 Dec 21 2003 20:42:58
A well-oiled toaster oven
--- InitPaths ---
VFS Init: C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force///baseef/
--- Light ---
Fast mode enabled
Lightmap filtering enabled
Ordered-grid supersampling enabled with 4 sample(s) per lightmap texel
Map has shader script C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/../scripts/q3map2_dec2.shader
entering scripts/shaderlist.txt
entering scripts/common.shader
entering scripts/gfx.shader
entering scripts/dreadNought3.shader
entering scripts/voyager.shader
entering scripts/transporter.shader
entering scripts/borg.shader
entering scripts/engineering.shader
entering scripts/damagedvoyager.shader
entering scripts/stmodels.shader
entering scripts/scavenger.shader
entering scripts/decals.shader
entering scripts/stasis.shader
entering scripts/forge.shader
entering scripts/holodeck_temple.shader
entering scripts/holodeck_training.shader
entering scripts/ctf2.shader
1697 shaderInfo
Loading C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/dec2.bsp
Loading C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/dec2.srf
--- LoadMapFile ---
Loading C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/dec2.map
entering C:/Program Files/Raven/Star Trek Voyager Elite Force/BaseEF/maps/dec2.map
69 light entities
--- SetupBrushes ---
2885 opaque brushes
--- SetupSurfaceLightmaps ---
7335 surfaces
5697 raw lightmaps
502 surfaces vertex lit
6833 surfaces lightmapped
5867 planar surfaces lightmapped
0 non-planar surfaces lightmapped
966 patches lightmapped
397 planar patches lightmapped
--- SetupTraceNodes ---
************ ERROR ************
MAX_TW_VERTS (12) exceeded
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:06 am
by obsidian
Your maps is failing the compile, therefore the light stage does not complete and the map is rendered in full-bright.
MAX_TW_VERTS (12) exceeded
From ydnar, years back:
MAX_TW_VERTS = Max Trace Winding Vertexes
Technology: A trace winding is created for every triangle in the map and then chopped up into the BSP, then further chopped up until each of the raytracer’s nodes is smaller than a certain size or complexity.
Explanation: Hitting MAX_TW_VERTS means you have got some clustercrunch of geometry getting sliced up too much. Run a BSP compile with -debugportals (assuming you have the q3map.shader installed & in shaderlist.txt, or you are editing with the newest version of Gtk) with no vis or light stage, and run around the map looking for areas with lots of portals.
Other Possible Fixes:
If you can’t find the offending area, then run the -light phase with the -lomem string to disable the trace tree subdivision.
Your map may be quite complex. Did you use a larger _blocksize key? Try _blocksize 8192 (or 16384) in the worldspawn.
Not mentioned as a possible (primary) fix, convert complex geometry into detail brushes and/or use a caulk hull build method to solve complex mess of brush issues.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:42 pm
by richfromlondon
I don't get that, one option could simply be to take parts of it, and load it into a map that doesn't have this problem?
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:57 pm
by richfromlondon
I also tried loading one map into another, only for the doors not to open at all, one only moves outwards only just, not sure there.
I am pretty much confined to two decks that the game creator's released with this problem with the lighting, and now just trying to put in one map with the one, this problem occurs.
I also noticed that if I use a different mp3 sound, it won't load even as a replacement with the same name in any other map, including adding into the pak3 file it was packed with, the file I have accessed is my release from summer 2005. I can't get any sounds to trigger, even using the existing brushes and so on through a door.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:02 pm
by Eraser
Not to be a dick, bit it sounds like you're punching well above your weight.
Have you gone through the progress of building and releasing your own Elite Force maps before? Or maps for any idTech3 engine based games?
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:27 pm
by richfromlondon
He, I released one map which was the one released by Raven software, they released two story mission maps, but the others were released years later.
As for the sounds or scripts, I only got one sound to play using a speaker, and that was it. I have only edited and changed brushes around, and one script.
There aren't any tutorials or modders. So I'm using the existing stuff to try and produce something more. I've messed with ef for a number of years, but only here and there as I couldn't change anything.
I did join a Jedi knights forum, and tried there a few times over two years on creating an icarus scripting, nothing.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:26 pm
by richfromlondon
How could I remove a worldspawn from a brush without destroying the whole map?
In another copy of the map, the brush is a func_usable, so just simply changing it won't work.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:39 pm
by obsidian
All brushes need to belong to an entity class of some sort. Worldspawn is the default state for all brushes, you don’t remove it. You either convert a brush to some other entity or return it back to worldspawn.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:28 pm
by richfromlondon
If I removed the worldspawn from a couple of brushes, the map is finished. So how do I convert two or three brushes into a func_usable, and the rest can be worldspawn, nothing wrong with that, most are.
Re: Lighting problem in Elite force game map after compile
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:16 am
by richfromlondon
While I couldn't do exactly as I have wanted, I was able to mod one level and add a few changes I wanted for quite some time. I decided to just copy and paste brushes and what ever else, copy a script from another mod and edit and then put it altogether it has worked.
I can travel to any deck, by using a brush and a script runner entity, trigger thing, so that is the only way to get around, as there is no easy to use or example scripts for using a lift to travel, so the brush can go anywhere be done with that.
I have something to mess around with, but like with any mission purpose level, the resources and new files or what ever is the obstacle. I did try and get a wav to play, but no luck with that once the script removed one NPC, I don't know. In GTK sound/.wav should be okay, in the folder there is maps, sound, real_scripts. So any ingame map has the sounds from the game that are packed on the disc, and what ever, they aren't accessible as with many scripts. So anything I had to take from the game's tour mod, which has examples, but it isn't that flexible. But I have done well so far..
As for this brush worldspawn, not sure on this.