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...just ran across two of them as I am grading cosmology papers. Plagiarism is bad enough, but generally I find that kids copy and paste from websites related to the subject (for example, going to a site about black holes and copying/pasting a whole section on the event horizon or a singularity or whatever..). Tonight, I find two papers that were actually taken directly from those online essay paper resources. First of all, any teacher who can't figure out they are reading one of these things should be fired for gross incompetence. They have no references, no works cited, aren't written in any 'real' format (MLA, etc.) Second, any teacher who hasn't figured out that you can just google specific sections of the paper to find the whole thing should be kicked in the crotch for sheer idiocy. Finally, any student who thinks that I'm not going to recognize the fact that a sophomore in high school, with 1 quarter of real astronomy instruction, who discusses graduate or college level astrophysics in their paper probably did not write it is being too lazy to even cheat correctly.

Sad thing is, for 2 of these kids, this paper will mean that they have to take this class over again. It's 6 percent of their semester grade, and they were both scraping by with D's. The real pisser is that I don't want to see any of them fail...but I told them day after day...DO NOT TAKE A PAPER FROM THE NET...I WILL FIND OUT IF YOU DO. As a teacher, nothing is more difficult to watch than seeing a student flush 90 days of class down the crapper because they were too lazy to write their term paper. But you've got to have accountability, so, unless the ace a 100 question comprehensive final over the entire semester, it doesn't look too good.

To all of you students out there - DON'T FUCKING PLAGIARIZE YOU LAZY BASTARDS.

You are the kind of teacher I hated in High School...but now after being out a few years I wish I had more like 'em.

Yeah, but what if they bring up your molestation? Then you have to pass them with As.

rep wrote:Yeah, but what if they bring up your molestation? Then you have to pass them with As.

Figured there must have been a reason behind the improbable chance that you passed high school.

bork[e] wrote:You are the kind of teacher I hated in High School...but now after being out a few years I wish I had more like 'em.

Yea, unfortunately that's the way this job goes in many cases. While they are in school, students don't often realize that the very fact that you are holding them to high standards and demanding the best out of them is because you want them to succeed, and have that success actually mean something. Years later they finally figure out why you wouldn't let them settle on less than they were capable of doing.

Luckily, the fact that education is funded so well in the states makes it all worth it.

students

I downloaded a sample from one site just see what the deal was and the paper was horrible.

For one thing, the paragraphs were too short. Most papers I've read have paragraphs that stretch on for at least page or more

I've written so many papers in college for so many idiots, I should have extra credits from those classes. I'm not a business major, but I can tell you about JIT Principles, MIS and distributed systems.

Writing papers for people... I hope you get paid well

fucking flunk the kids
if the parents give you a hard time ( i understand this happens a lot lately in the US), direct them to the site their kids copied their shit from

then kick them in the face :A

rep wrote:Yeah, but what if they bring up your molestation? Then you have to pass them with As.

oh my god he has a new sig
the photoshop guru's finest work yet

I had a teacher in my freshman year Intro to Science class that I hated. She was always giving me BS that I could do more, bla bla bla and ended up failing me. I hated her for it and made fun of her to my friends for the next two years. Well, junior year I had a few teachers that made me 'see the light' so to speak (indirectly). Senior year I had her again for Chemistry, and within the first month I totally changed my opinion about her. I realized exactly what you were saying, tnf. It's too bad it took me until my last semester of high school, or I would have taken more classes with her.

I had to stay after class a few times to make up labs I missed, and we would chit chat for a while. I came to realize that she's one of those teachers that truly loves her job. I can only say the same for about 4 other teachers throughout high school, which is unfortunate.

How is your college experience BT?

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At least they probably don't do steroids.

lol sometimes when i troll transient I assume i already know what his post is going to be about before reading them, and then i look stupid. fucking transient

Dave wrote:How is your college experience BT?

college is pretty neat, i like classes, i've had some smart teachers. The coolest thing is living in Colorado, Boulder is the bomb :icon34:

Dave wrote:For one thing, the paragraphs were too short. Most papers I've read have paragraphs that stretch on for at least page or more

Unless you're talking about masters/phd level writing, where it might be unavoidable, that's not a good thing.

I'm the type of student you would have hated.

I remember my chemistry teacher told us that our lab papers were worth 40% of our grades and that it would be impossible to pass if we didn't do them. Well I didn't and I passed the course although she failed me anyway. She told me I had to do 3 of the labs that we had done throughout the semester and she'd give me a passing grade so I went down to my locker and got 3 that I had already done and hadn't passed in. gg

I dont copy paste entire papers from the net cause my teachers will not bother to look at it. Secondly, its allowed to just quote - respectable ammounts - and put the source in your paper.

I'd copy and paste an entire article and replace most key words with synonyms that mean the same thing so it can't be traced. :icon19: gg teacher

Zyte -_- wrote:I dont copy paste entire papers from the net cause my teachers will not bother to look at it. Secondly, its allowed to just quote - respectable ammounts - and put the source in your paper.

That or rephrase. I still mention the source out of habit though. Never hurts.

Kracus wrote:I'd copy and paste an entire article and replace most key words with synonyms that mean the same thing so it can't be traced. :icon19: gg teacher

Google will still pull them up if the teacher has a brain..

GG!

sliver wrote:

Dave wrote:For one thing, the paragraphs were too short. Most papers I've read have paragraphs that stretch on for at least page or more

Unless you're talking about masters/phd level writing, where it might be unavoidable, that's not a good thing.

Most 1 page+ paragraphs are a result of people rambling on and on trying to make a point they're failing to make

He is entitled a pass from you.

explain how iyo you disprove of his homeworkstyle.

but be cool about it.