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Clinton seeks video game sex scene probe

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:02 pm
by Transient
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton pressed Thursday for a government investigation into how simulated sex cropped up in a modified version of the blockbuster criminal adventure video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/15/ ... index.html

Honestly, don't you have anything better to do? FFS. :icon27:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:08 pm
by Guest
:lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:09 pm
by MKJ
"how it cropped up"

fucks sake. give someone a computer and some software and theyll change it in whatever they want

its like "investigating" cars because one could make a bomb out of one, using the right tools and knowledge. so ban all the sparkplugs!

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:11 pm
by PhoeniX
The games an 18, when you can legally buy porn and whatever (at least in the UK) wheres the problem.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:11 pm
by o'dium
Fucking hell... There is a game coming out thats JUST a sex simulation...

These people need to get a grip, did they not see the 18 sticker on the fucking box?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:12 pm
by Transient
Hillary wants it changed from M to AO.
IMO she needs to be F'ed up the A.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:12 pm
by MKJ
regardless of the 18 sticker, this 'feature' wasnt even supposed to be in the game to begin with. :dork:

at least be a tightmuff about the out-of-the-box content :A

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:17 pm
by Guest
Transient wrote:Hillary wants it changed from M to AO.
IMO she needs to be F'ed up the A.
:lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:22 pm
by tnf
I wonder if she sees the irony in her opening up an investigation into a blowjob...a virtual one at that.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:22 pm
by tnf
IT'S A PRIVATE MATTER BETWEEN CJ AND THE YOUNG LADY SENATOR.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:27 pm
by Don Carlos
old news....

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:46 pm
by Dr.FrasierCrane
Shes quite obviously not played Singles 2 then.
Fuck me the graphics are good, each bitch in it has a different/no pubic style :drool: :icon32:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:03 pm
by Eraser
PhoeniX wrote:The games an 18, when you can legally buy porn and whatever (at least in the UK) wheres the problem.
I thought that's 21 in the US, but it probably differs from state to state.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:08 pm
by tnf
Porn age is 18.
I'm pretty sure that is everywhere...but I could be wrong.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:10 pm
by Eraser
Maybe miss clinton should be more worried about this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60093

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:12 pm
by dzjepp
Well this could very well be the most damaging for rockstar out of all the trouble they've been in the past (been in a couple).

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:16 pm
by PhoeniX
Eraser wrote:
PhoeniX wrote:The games an 18, when you can legally buy porn and whatever (at least in the UK) wheres the problem.
I thought that's 21 in the US, but it probably differs from state to state.
:shrug:

Over here the US 21 = our 18, i.e. drinking and whatever else.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:16 pm
by rep
This is really out of hand.

Quake 3 can be turned into Candyland. It could also turn it into Señor Juan's Casa Del Niñas.

It's impossible for these adults to not know that is a modification and has nothing to do with the original product. Clearly this is just a way to grab the attention of the religious zealots. There is an election coming up pretty soon. This makes me glad that the US is probably going to become a police state before 2008. This investigation has to cost money if it happens.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:20 pm
by dzjepp
You know, I'm suprised no one from the mod community hasn't done a little side-project for themselves with a mod where you can play with 20 other people and go into a hardcore porn establishment, go all out fuck the other users there, you know, the camera should let you look down and see your cock, and stroke it if you want to. You could see 'rep connected' then a gang of raging player jump on him and fuck him doggystyle.

Offbeat off the wall and amatureish? Sure, but it would no doubt bring attention to the modder and stirr on some controversy (maybe it would bring a case to the supreme court, 'can games allow children to make mods? when such filth is possible').

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:21 pm
by Eraser
rep wrote:This is really out of hand.

Quake 3 can be turned into Candyland. It could also turn it into Señor Juan's Casa Del Niñas.

It's impossible for these adults to not know that these were modifications and had nothing to do with the original product. Clearly this is just a way to grab the attention of the religious zealots.
Well that's the question. Currently there are two beliefs behind the mod:

1 - The content and code was hacked into the game by a "hacker" (that's what the sensationalists call it anyway). This is what Rockstar first claimed. However, not it seems that the Hot Coffee mod can also be unlocked in the PS2 version of the game, pretty much disproving Rockstars claims.

2 - The code and content was there, but never actually included in the game. Someone used a simple hex editor, changed a few bits in a save game and unlocked the mini game. I believe that this is what happened.

Either way, while Rockstar is to blame for leaving the code in there, the mini game can only be achieved by altering the game, which is an illegal activity. Therefor, it's not Rockstar's responsibility whether or not people get to see it. Those people have to actively and knowingly unlock it.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:31 pm
by dzjepp
Yeah, but try explaining that to a bunch of grownup prunes that never played games and are not into the gen-y crap they will have no clue what you're talking about.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:34 pm
by o'dium
You dont even see them undress FFS, i mean yeah if CJ got his 8 poly cock out and stuck it in a 8x8 resolution pussy i could understand maybe a bit of a stir. But its a fucking game. An 18 rated game. Who gives a fuck, because if you see it and your not supposed to, you shouldn't be playing it anyways.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:40 pm
by Ryoki
o'dium wrote:if CJ got his 8 poly cock out and stuck it in a 8x8 resolution pussy
lol jesus odium :icon19:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:24 pm
by rep
o'dium wrote:8 poly cock
That's almost impossible.

Image

The top figure is 8 polygons, but when triangulated it's 15. You can't get any lower unless the glans wasn't modeled at all. The lowest you could really get would be either 9 or 12 polys, without the glans.

The bottom is just a plane with 8 polys. Of course it wouldn't make sense to do this because you could use an alpha mapped image on two triangles and get a more realistic result.

:lol:

Edit: Now you won't run into this problem when you add Hot Coffee to Q2E.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:39 pm
by seremtan
i can't believe you just did that