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networking woes

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:25 pm
by dmmh
my neighbours have a network with 3 computers on it

1 XP machine, 2 '98 machines

the XP machine works fine with everything asigned via DHCP by the ADSL modem/ router, the '98 machines dont

they have someone living with them temporarily and he said he used the 169.xxx.xxx.x adress range with 255.255.0.0 as subnet mask and had working internet, the working XP machine is asigned 192.168.xxx.x with subnet 255.255.255.0 via DHCP

all of a sudden, the connection dropped on both the 98 machines, even though apperently it worked fine on one pc with the 169.xxx.xxx.x adress range, the other one stopped a week before by itself

connection is fine, router sees pcs, specifying 192.168.1.xxx for the 2 machines and using the same gateway the XP machine does somehow doesnt work, although it takes longer before the browser window times out, so it seems only DNS is missing

ima 98 noob, fuck that shit, anyone can think of something I forgot?

even the gay XP network install floppy dont worky

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:21 am
by AmIdYfReAk
why the hell are the 98 machines on a diffrent subnet?

and why arnt you letting them connect Via DHCP?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:30 pm
by Underpants?
169.xxx.xxx.x 255.255.0.0
is an autoconfiguration ip address.
sounds like something's taken a horrible turn for the worse, almost like the machines leasing those addresses are plugged into a non-dhcp or broken interfaces.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:46 am
by dmmh
read guys read :p

one '98 machine is totally on DHCP as per instructions of the DSL supplier, the other was manually configured per settings on the Compuserve website and strangely they both worked fine, then after a while the DHCP 98 lost connection, a week after that the manually configured did. The XP pc is still DHCP asigned and works fine.

tried to get into the router, which I configured for them, but the cunts forgot to write down what pass they used for it and I forgot.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:28 pm
by prince1000
i'm surprised you didnt just offer to put a pirated copy of xp on those 98 machines. very uncharacteristic of you :p

manually configure the 98 machines ip's and everything to point to the router ie gateway, dns, etc. sounds like they tried to obtain addresses automatically which would give you that range (169.xxx.xxx.xxx) even tho dhcp is enabled.

or /release renew (works w/98??) reboot and then auto obtain from dhcp. dunno but what's the point of windows 98 these days?

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:02 pm
by Tormentius
prince1000 wrote:
or /release renew (works w/98??) reboot and then auto obtain from dhcp. dunno but what's the point of windows 98 these days?
winipconfig is the command you're looking for.

I don't see the point of 9x anymore either. IMO, the lack of stability and security makes it abysmal to work with.

Dmmh: Have you considered doing a hard reset on the router in order to set it to factory defaults (including the password)? On most consumer routers you just need to hold in the reset button on the back for 5-10 seconds and then let it reboot.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:40 pm
by dmmh
im worried ill fuck it up even more :D
dont think the router is bad or something....ill leave it for the time beeing, but thx for the tip

those 2 98 machines are just horendously slow, PII 400 MHz-ish slow to be more precise....no XP worky worky

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:46 pm
by prince1000
jesus just tell them to throw them away.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:58 pm
by Underpants?
dmmh wrote:read guys read :p

one '98 machine is totally on DHCP as per instructions of the DSL supplier, the other was manually configured per settings on the Compuserve website and strangely they both worked fine, then after a while the DHCP 98 lost connection, a week after that the manually configured did. The XP pc is still DHCP asigned and works fine.

tried to get into the router, which I configured for them, but the cunts forgot to write down what pass they used for it and I forgot.
not at all what you originally said. come back and ask questions when you're sober.