Higgs boson found?

[seremtan]

here for instance:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... esday.html

"god particle"

the right-hand sidebar is full of stuff that's more the daily mail's level

[MKJ]

Ziggs boson

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol...Stephen Hawking lost a $100 bet as he didn't think they'd find the particle.

Link

In an interview with the BBC Wednesday, Hawking, who has motor neurone disease, said: "This is an important result and should earn Peter Higgs the Nobel Prize.

"But it is a pity in a way because the great advances in physics have come from experiments that gave results we didn't expect.

"For this reason I had a bet with Gordon Kane of Michigan University that the Higgs particle wouldn't be found. It seems I have just lost $100."

Now...if we can only create some crazy experiment that confirms String Theory/M-Theory as being correct and we can stop for cake.

[Κracus]

I'm calling it now, in the future they'll discover the Higgs Boson and what we perceive as consciousness are tied together.

[EtUL]

I don't know how you can treat it like it's no big deal because "it's what we knew already" when a very real scenario was them not finding this particle...

[U4EA]

midichlorians

[Transient]

lol...Stephen Hawking lost a $100 bet as he didn't think they'd find the particle.

Higgs Bosowned.

[Eraser]

Maybe GKY and Tsakali should stop reading their daily digest tabloits for news about scientific discoveries.

[GONNAFISTYA]

I'm not reading tabloids. Just do a Google search for "God Particle" and you'll find almost 500 million results. Dunno...maybe some of you can't recognize sensationalism as easily as others.

And for some reason some of you idiots think that because I feel the reporting of the discovery is a bit daft that by default I think the discovery itself is meaningless. Priceless.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

I'm calling it now, in the future they'll discover the Higgs Boson and what we perceive as consciousness are tied together.

[EtUL]

I'm not reading tabloids. Just do a Google search for "God Particle" and you'll find almost 500 million results. Dunno...maybe some of you can't recognize sensationalism as easily as others.

And for some reason some of you idiots think that because I feel the reporting of the discovery is a bit daft that by default I think the discovery itself is meaningless. Priceless.

You were dismissive of it in saying:

All this does is confirm what we already know.

Which is really stupid because "we" didn't know it, it was predicted by models. The model could have been wrong.

Are you getting dumber?

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol

I wasn't dismissive of it. You claimed I was. You're the only person that has. And here I am yet again telling you your interpretation of my post was wrong, yet you ignore it anyways.

Talk about a sweetly retarded strawman with a shit-ton of moron thrown in the mix.

[xer0s]

Am I the only one missing how to add the "lol" header to our posts?

[losCHUNK]

Well if they didnt find it they wouldve kept looking, sounds like they were searching for something that they knew was already there and confirmed what they already know.

Based on the evidence provided I say the fatties correct, and you should all line up and offer an apology one by one, like those ants that went marching.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Am I the only one missing how to add the "lol" header to our posts?

Shouldn't you be cowering in your basement worried a black hole will swallow you and your new bride?

[xer0s]

Not that I know of...

[EtUL]

Backpedaling moron alert?

[0psys]

lol

I wasn't dismissive of it. You claimed I was. You're the only person that has. And here I am yet again telling you your interpretation of my post was wrong, yet you ignore it anyways.

Talk about a sweetly retarded strawman with a shit-ton of moron thrown in the mix.

But really, you were very dismissive of it in your first post.

"all it does is confirm what we already know" is a pretty low-key reaction to what is pretty much among the greatest scientific discoveries of all time.

It wouldn't be so bad if you were actually a scientist of some kind, but you're just an obnoxious fat guy who makes computer games. Literally worthless in both scope and opinion as far as this subject goes.

[DTS]

Computer scientist.

[seremtan]

I'm calling it now, in the future they'll discover the Higgs Boson and what we perceive as consciousness are tied together.

in the sense that consciousness is an activity of brains, and that brains - like everything else in the universe that has mass - are made ultimately of atoms which contain said bosons

ffs krackass i thought starting a family meant you laid off the mind-altering substances

[0psys]

Well if they didnt find it they wouldve kept looking, sounds like they were searching for something that they knew was already there and confirmed what they already know.

Based on the evidence provided I say the fatties correct, and you should all line up and offer an apology one by one, like those ants that went marching.

They didn't know. What they had was a mathematical equation that predicted the existence of this special particle. Sometimes the maths is wrong, so it has to be tested.

Look at it like this: Faraday had no idea that electromagnetic induction would lead to the computer, but without his experiments based on his formulas and equations, we wouldn't be here discussing things in this forum now. There's no way of telling what this find will lead to, just like nobody knew what Faraday's results would lead to. Unless these theories are tested and confirmed, then they cannot be improved upon.

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol

I wasn't dismissive of it. You claimed I was. You're the only person that has. And here I am yet again telling you your interpretation of my post was wrong, yet you ignore it anyways.

Talk about a sweetly retarded strawman with a shit-ton of moron thrown in the mix.

But really, you were very dismissive of it in your first post.

"all it does is confirm what we already know" is a pretty low-key reaction to what is pretty much among the greatest scientific discoveries of all time.

It wouldn't be so bad if you were actually a scientist of some kind, but you're just an obnoxious fat guy who makes computer games. Literally worthless in both scope and opinion as far as this subject goes.

Holy shit. Here you are still arguing? Even after the entire premise of your argument has been completely destroyed (you misinterpreted what I meant) and here you are doing what your anger management counselor told you not to do. You're arguing with people who aren't arguing the topic, but instead arguing your interpretation of what they meant? Is that what's keeping you typing? For someone who went on a huge rant about how I was unable to let shit slide and must.win.every.argument you once again prove just how much you project yourself to others. I'm sure your court-appointed shrink can explain that to you.

"All it does is confirm what we already know" is a pretty low-key request to level-headed people to not allow some of the sensationalist reporting make them think we can suddenly go faster than light speed.

Now, I can understand why you might misinterpret that, but is there some reason you choose to not accept that it wasn't what I meant and that you were wrong? I mean how utterly insane does someone have to be to be continually told their going down the wrong path and yet they go down it anyways? I'm fully aware that crazy people refuse to acknowledge reality and want to stay in their own fantasy world. I can relate to that. I mean who wants to go through life angry for made up reasons when they can pretend they're real? I can fully understand why a thug, with a violent criminal record and suffering from little-man syndrome, might want to argue on some stupid tangent about people's true intentions about posts they make regarding scientific discoveries. I mean, if you release your anger the way you normally would by hitting people and things, that it would be a violation of your parole/probation/court order and you'd go back to jail again....so I can see why getting angry at people on the internet for insane reasons makes perfect sense.

If only if there were some way of you not being a complete moron. Nah! What was I thinking?

[losCHUNK]

Well if they didnt find it they wouldve kept looking, sounds like they were searching for something that they knew was already there and confirmed what they already know.

Based on the evidence provided I say the fatties correct, and you should all line up and offer an apology one by one, like those ants that went marching.

They didn't know. What they had was a mathematical equation that predicted the existence of this special particle. Sometimes the maths is wrong, so it has to be tested.

Look at it like this: Faraday had no idea that electromagnetic induction would lead to the computer, but without his experiments based on his formulas and equations, we wouldn't be here discussing things in this forum now. There's no way of telling what this find will lead to, just like nobody knew what Faraday's results would lead to. Unless these theories are tested and confirmed, then they cannot be improved upon.

Yea but these scientists were confident of finding the higgs long before the LHC was constructed, ive seen some of the guys working at CERN ? go on about how that even if this LHC doesnt produce the higgs that a larger one would, its nice proving yourself right but thats all these dudes done lol.

I havnt seen any skeptics refute the theory ?, Im probaly wrong about that tho and not being dismissive n all I just think the greater discovery was figuring out how to build an experiment to find it in the 1st place, knowing that there was something there to be found, the bigger surprise wouldve been if we took this long road of discovery and found fuck all ?

Its not like its gooing to advance our planet anymore either ?, its hardly increased our understanding ?, all the scientists will still be singing from the same hymn sheet ? and its not like were going to be changing plans now that we found one ?, the plan is still to find more higgsys ?

[EtUL]

But really, you were very dismissive of it in your first post.

"all it does is confirm what we already know" is a pretty low-key reaction to what is pretty much among the greatest scientific discoveries of all time.

It wouldn't be so bad if you were actually a scientist of some kind, but you're just an obnoxious fat guy who makes computer games. Literally worthless in both scope and opinion as far as this subject goes.

Holy shit. Here you are still arguing? Even after the entire premise of your argument has been completely destroyed (you misinterpreted what I meant) and here you are doing what your anger management counselor told you not to do. You're arguing with people who aren't arguing the topic, but instead arguing your interpretation of what they meant? Is that what's keeping you typing? For someone who went on a huge rant about how I was unable to let shit slide and must.win.every.argument you once again prove just how much you project yourself to others. I'm sure your court-appointed shrink can explain that to you.

"All it does is confirm what we already know" is a pretty low-key request to level-headed people to not allow some of the sensationalist reporting make them think we can suddenly go faster than light speed.

Now, I can understand why you might misinterpret that, but is there some reason you choose to not accept that it wasn't what I meant and that you were wrong? I mean how utterly insane does someone have to be to be continually told their going down the wrong path and yet they go down it anyways? I'm fully aware that crazy people refuse to acknowledge reality and want to stay in their own fantasy world. I can relate to that. I mean who wants to go through life angry for made up reasons when they can pretend they're real? I can fully understand why a thug, with a violent criminal record and suffering from little-man syndrome, might want to argue on some stupid tangent about people's true intentions about posts they make regarding scientific discoveries. I mean, if you release your anger the way you normally would by hitting people and things, that it would be a violation of your parole/probation/court order and you'd go back to jail again....so I can see why getting angry at people on the internet for insane reasons makes perfect sense.

If only if there were some way of you not being a complete moron. Nah! What was I thinking?

lol look at all that text. tl:dr but the lady doth protest too much, methinks

[0psys]

Holy shit. Here you are still arguing? Even after the entire premise of your argument has been completely destroyed (you misinterpreted what I meant) and here you are doing what your anger management counselor told you not to do. You're arguing with people who aren't arguing the topic, but instead arguing your interpretation of what they meant? Is that what's keeping you typing? For someone who went on a huge rant about how I was unable to let shit slide and must.win.every.argument you once again prove just how much you project yourself to others. I'm sure your court-appointed shrink can explain that to you.

"All it does is confirm what we already know" is a pretty low-key request to level-headed people to not allow some of the sensationalist reporting make them think we can suddenly go faster than light speed.

Now, I can understand why you might misinterpret that, but is there some reason you choose to not accept that it wasn't what I meant and that you were wrong? I mean how utterly insane does someone have to be to be continually told their going down the wrong path and yet they go down it anyways? I'm fully aware that crazy people refuse to acknowledge reality and want to stay in their own fantasy world. I can relate to that. I mean who wants to go through life angry for made up reasons when they can pretend they're real? I can fully understand why a thug, with a violent criminal record and suffering from little-man syndrome, might want to argue on some stupid tangent about people's true intentions about posts they make regarding scientific discoveries. I mean, if you release your anger the way you normally would by hitting people and things, that it would be a violation of your parole/probation/court order and you'd go back to jail again....so I can see why getting angry at people on the internet for insane reasons makes perfect sense.

If only if there were some way of you not being a complete moron. Nah! What was I thinking?

The way you constantly open your rebuttals with flabbergasted exclamations of disbelief means I just can't be fucked to read them. What you've written may well have totally owned me or whatever, but I'll just never know.