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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 09:40 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


why isn't there more news coverage of the school shooting? Its 3 people shy of the columbine shootings and that was committed by 2 kids.. So, in scale this one would be worse on a shooting per person statistically.. Is it because their Indian? Did they play Doom, too!!!!?

Is it because they aren't white suburban kids??
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 09:43 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


nono we're just concentrating all 24 hour news networks on the schiavo case instead :icon8:
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 09:48 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


ur thick dekard...maybe becuz its indians...if he was white or if he killed whites it would be 24/7 coverage...
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 09:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i mean u do realize our ppls killed more indians then hitler killed jews...right?



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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 09:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My guess would be because of the media. There is no controversy with school shootings (not to mention that they're getting slightly commonplace), so people aren't tuned into it because it's not the hip new debate.

That said, all the facts aren't in yet, so there's not as much to cover. It's all over the news here, of course, but then again I AM listening to Minnesota Public Radio.
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no dude...its becuz it indians on a reservation...period...

difference between germany killing jews and the us killing indians is the us has never really taken responsiblity or paid restitution to the ppl it slaughtered...and ppl in the us still don't give a shit about indians...not even the media...



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Also, I know reporter access has been limited, possibly since it was on a reservation. And I would not be at all surprised if that fact that they are poor Indians has anything to do with it.
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access was limited in the columbine shooting as well...



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Freakaloin wrote:
no dude...its becuz it indians on a reservation...period...

difference between germany killing jews and the us killing indians is the us has never really taken responsiblity or paid restitution to the ppl it slaughtered...and ppl in the us still don't give a shit about indians...not even the media...


But you imply that there isn't media coverage because the US hates Indians and doesn't give a shit about them. I'd say it's more because they have a culture and lifestyle apart from the rest of the states. What happens on reservations is the business of reservations, so I'd believe that a school shooting out in Pine Ridge reservation would not be highly covered in MN news. In the same way, other states could probably care fuck-all about what happens on a reservation in MN. People want to know details when it's something that can happen to them, as well. I wouldn't expect a school killing in Asia to be such a fuss here either, because the culture is different. Reservations are like their own little countries.

However, it's all over the news here because we ARE involved with what happens in Red Lake -- they contribute to our economy, etc.
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its not getting as much coverage becuz americans don't give a shit about live indians or the 10 million we killed...or their culture or anything else about them...

americans see indains as dirt worshipping heathens...ask al...



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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 10:25 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's being kept out of the media by liberal bias
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 10:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


werldhed wrote:

But you imply that there isn't media coverage because the US hates Indians and doesn't give a shit about them. I'd say it's more because they have a culture and lifestyle apart from the rest of the states.


no matter how you put it or whatever reasons you give, i think Geoff is ultimately right...the US/american people dont give a shit about them (if you want to say its becasue of lifestyle differences thats fine). also you might want to throw in the fact that they're not white.

btw geoff never said that there isnt media coverage because the US hates indians. you implied that yourself.
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Chupacabra wrote:
no matter how you put it or whatever reasons you give, i think goof is ultimately right...the US/american people dont give a shit about them (if you want to say its becasue of lifestyle differences thats fine). also you might want to throw in the fact that they're not white.

btw goof never said that there isnt media coverage because the US hates indians. you implied that yourself.


I know he didn't say it. He implied it. Or, at least, I got the impression that's what he meant when he said it. Either way, he confirmed it.
I still disagree, though. Yes, the US is less interested in Indian affairs, but not (completely) because they're red-skinned, god-hatin injuns. It just happens to be something that doesn't concern us. If we hate them, why do they have so many privileges that could be easily taken away?

And when I say media access is limited, I mean the media is not even allowed on the reservation. They're all camped out in Bemidji, waiting for something to report. Hell, we're still not sure of the identities of some people killed.
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 10:36 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Geebs wrote:
It's being kept out of the media by liberal bias


Stinking liberal media :icon8:



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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 10:37 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That...

That was a joke.

In case...

In case any of you didn't... get it.



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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 06:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Numbnuts.

Have you taken a look at WHERE the shooting was? It was in a remote location. Shit, it took something like 3 hours after the story broke to get a still photo of the school.

But nice try with the 'must be ignored because its native americans and not white people' theory. Too bad it was the first item on all the major cable news shows tonight.
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 07:25 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


but not half as much as columbine...not even 10%...now fuck off...



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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 07:38 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


my point is made.
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 07:43 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm sorry but it's definately true that the majority of americans really don't give a shit about this shooting because the kids are native.
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 07:50 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


No, we don't get a shit because it isn't next door.
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 07:52 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


TEAM AMERICA FUCK YEA

COMING TO SAVE THE MUFAFUCKING DAY YEA
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Fender wrote:
No, we don't get a shit because it isn't next door.


No - we don't give a shit because they're Indians. Don't bullshit yourself.... And by we, I mean most dumbass Americans.

I'd like to reitterate to the rest of you that we are not all redneck savages.



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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 08:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I really wasn't interested in reading it before I found out it was on a reservation. That makes no difference to me.
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PostPosted: 03-22-2005 08:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


School shootings rock..
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Yea, its just bias. Nobody cares. It's not being talked about. Not in the news, nowhere, because it was at a Native American school.
Just more people jumping on the victim mentality bandwagon.

cnn.com - front page - school shooting
msnbc.com - front page - school shooting
foxnews.com - front page - school shooting
nytimes.com - front page - school shooting
washingtpost.com - front page - school shooting
etc. etc. etc.

The latest stories are reporting that the kid had some admiration of Hitler...I think the news is jumping on that angle awfully quick though.
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tnf wrote:
Yea, its just bias. Nobody cares. It's not being talked about. Not in the news, nowhere, because it was at a Native American school.
Just more people jumping on the victim mentality bandwagon.

cnn.com - front page - school shooting
msnbc.com - front page - school shooting
foxnews.com - front page - school shooting
nytimes.com - front page - school shooting
washingtpost.com - front page - school shooting
etc. etc. etc.

The latest stories are reporting that the kid had some admiration of Hitler...I think the news is jumping on that angle awfully quick though.


he was a dirty reservation indian.. fuck him..
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SOAPboy wrote:
School shootings rock..


Those kind of comments are tired, and you really don't sound funny, cool, tough, or even apathetic with them...
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tnf wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
School shootings rock..


Those kind of comments are tired, and you really don't sound funny, cool, tough, or even apathetic with them...


meh, dont care about it.. he was a burden on tax dollars.. fuck him..
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Aw soap, I am trying very hard not to be impressed by your attempt to dehumanize the situation and show us your goth-superpowers that allow you to laugh in the face of tragedy and beg for the chance to offend someone with your intertoughness...but it just isn't working. Perhaps because the same act has been done so many times before...

*INSERT RANDOM TRAGEDY HERE*

Mandatory attention-whore response:
"fuck those (insert slur here), they were (insert insult here)."
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Freakaloin wrote:
i mean u do realize our ppls killed more indians then hitler killed jews...right?


I haven't checked my facts lately, but six million Jews died in the holocaust. There might not have even been six million people on the earth when the white/indian conflicts were going on.

Oh wait, there were several hundred million, nevermind.
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noam chomsky says we killed around 10 million indians...hes pretty knowledgable...



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tnf wrote:
Aw soap, I am trying very hard not to be impressed by your attempt to dehumanize the situation and show us your goth-superpowers that allow you to laugh in the face of tragedy and beg for the chance to offend someone with your intertoughness...but it just isn't working. Perhaps because the same act has been done so many times before...

*INSERT RANDOM TRAGEDY HERE*

Mandatory attention-whore response:
"fuck those (insert slur here), they were (insert insult here)."


You know, its funny.. any other ethnic group, i wouldnt say shit.. but after LIVING around, and interacting with a shit ton of reservation indians.. ive come to the conclusion, theres only a small handful of them, that deserve to be alive..

Case and point, my dad, runs indian casinos.. they make him a CEO, he opens the place, gets it booming, and they THINK they know everything.. they FIRE him basicly, and pow, the place turns to shit and they come crawling back.. not only can they NOT handle their own fucking casinos, the reservations are THRASHED 99% of the time.. mostly RUN DOWN ass trailors.. which COULD be nice if those fucking wankers wouldnt just blow their money on some high dollar car or booze..

they are pathetic, worthless, people.. and calling them people, is pushing it..

oh and the fact that they are total assholes for no reason dont help their image




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Mogul wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:
i mean u do realize our ppls killed more indians then hitler killed jews...right?


I haven't checked my facts lately, but six million Jews died in the holocaust. There might not have even been six million people on the earth when the white/indian conflicts were going on.

Oh wait, there were several hundred million, nevermind.


:icon19:

Read much? In school maybe?



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jesus soapboy is an ignorant sack of shit
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
jesus soapboy is an ignorant sack of shit


Yeah i am..

If you had been in my shoes, you would feel the same way..

fuck you..
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