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PostPosted: 03-04-2006 11:52 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hello mac community :p
I've got a question for you all about ping.
I've got comcast digital cable set up, which is a good connection; so why do I consistently play with ping 100+ (usually around 120).

How important is ping; is 120 terrible?

Is the reason I'm repeatedly killed over and over and over at least partially because of my ping? (I am new to the game, so I suck, but still, it's sort of ridiculous...)

I know there's not much to improve ping, so it frustrates me. Am i destined to suck because of this high ping, which is inexcusable considering how good of a connection I have.

My computer's good, a 1.25 Ghz G4; I can turn all the settings all the way up with absolutley no lag.

I love this game, but I want to underdstand more about this ping business. Do I just need to keep playing and get better, or (and be honest) does my ping prevent me from getting good?
:confused:

finally, what are some of the pings that you guys play on?

Thanks for hearing me out... :p



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The Afflicted
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PostPosted: 03-04-2006 08:09 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


No clue what comprises a good ping now, but back in the day a 20-30 ping was a measure of good times.




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canis
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PostPosted: 03-04-2006 10:38 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I play with ~100 ping and its fine for me. Really, the thing that matters is smooth ping. Sure, lower pings are more beneficial because you dont ahve to predict as much, but as long as the ping is consistent you should be able to get pretty accurate.

The thing that affects ping the most beyond connection speed is the distance you are from the server, but in the US you should be able to ping the opposite coast with a ~100-120 ping. In Q3 you can increase the snaps value to 40 or so with the console command "\snaps 40" and increase the packet throughput with "\cl_maxpackets 120" to give yourself a smoother connection.

A 1.25GHz G4 should run the game fine, depending on the video card you have, of course. The video settings you use are up to you, but if you find the game to be a bit choppy, you can turn down the resolution as well as turn off lightmap and trilinear filtering to give yourself a boost in performance.

If you're new to the game you'll just have to get used to the gameplay. Go play some bots and such in singleplayer to get accustomed to the controls and how the game functions (and how effective each weapon is) before worrying about dieing too much in online games.

Additionally, go grab gameranger at http://www.gameranger.com and set it up to search for quake3 servers. You can list them by ping so you will get servers that are both populated as well as have a low ping for you.




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PostPosted: 03-05-2006 10:40 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


thanks guys, I'll try the console commands :icon25:

I really dont think Im at that much of a disadvantage here, I just need to practice...

Anyway, thanks again



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The Illuminated
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PostPosted: 03-09-2006 12:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


you can reduce ping by fine tuning your cfg file (a bit) I cant remember the details, but google the upset chaps quake 3 guide - it has the good oil for sure.

It also advises on how to improve your scores by using vertex lighting, removing shadows etc - eg low detail rather than high details. If your trying to play osp with 100+ ping, its no wonder you struggle, if you cant reduce your ping, download some unlagged mods, and play them, youll have much less prediction to do and have a more even playing field.

edit:
linky http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/connection.html



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