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On which platform do you plan to battle Strogg?
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Psyche911
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PostPosted: 10-03-2005 09:37 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You'll have twice the FPS as me:

P4 2.4 @ 2.75
9800 Pro 128MB
1GB RAM
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PostPosted: 10-03-2005 11:51 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dell i9300 - notebook, but reasonably useful for gaming too.
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o'dium
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 01:59 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


PC, all the way. May get xbox later on just for the sake of having it.

AMD 3200 64bit CPU
2048meg DDR RAM
GeForce 6800 GT 256meg DDR (Overclocked to over Ultra settings)
5.1 Surround Sound

WILL I BE UBLE TOP PLAY DOOM THREE ON MEDIUM SETTIN WITH THES!?
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o'dium wrote:

WILL I BE UBLE TOP PLAY DOOM THREE ON MEDIUM SETTIN WITH THES!?


in a word..........
No
go upgrade :olo:
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o'dium
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 02:21 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dont you just love hose posts...

"My daddy bought me a new PC for £67,000 and it includes all the latest and most expensive stuff. Will it be able to play 3d pong?!"
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 02:42 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'll probably get shit framerates, but I refuse to play a game like Quake4 on a console.
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Eraser wrote:
I'll probably get shit framerates, but I refuse to play a game like Quake4 on a console.


Dont think like that. Outdoor areas use a combination of ambient lighting (noShadows) and deluxe maps, with very few pointlights, which mean that the outdoor area will be bright but at the same time, normals look poor. (Resulting in some awful looking faces so far).

The frame rate for the most part should be better than Doom 3.
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 03:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


playing on a xbox is for idiots that think playing on a xbox is hip... or cool... or both!
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I hope they did a good job optimizing the (lighting on the) multiplayer maps. The stock Doom 3 MP maps run pretty shitty for me, but there are some custom maps that look just as good but on which I get very good framerates.
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im running a Athlon64 3200+
256mb GeForce 6200oc
1 Gig Ram.

ill be picking it up for the PC for sure, and i believe my room mate is grabbin the 360 version.
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r3t wrote:
I hope they did a good job optimizing the (lighting on the) multiplayer maps. The stock Doom 3 MP maps run pretty shitty for me, but there are some custom maps that look just as good but on which I get very good framerates.


Like I said. The game uses a combination of different tricks for the outdoor and MP levels.

Firt of all, it uses something called "deluxe mapping". What this is, is a pre-generated lightmap for the level, that has normals information too. If you were to load a level up with a deluxe map, you would see that it looks exactly the same as Doom 3. Then, anything that needs to move, or any lights etc that wont be static, will be computed in real time. This makes the gameplay a lot faster. It also uses tiny, smaller pointlights and heavy use of ambient lighting. Point lights (just lights), are heavily fillrate bound, and so the smaller they are, the better, but the smaller they are, the less shadow you get (hence the lack of shadows in the Q4 MP pics/vids, and the small ones too). Ambient lighting in a PPL engine like Quake 4 is jsut a piontlight that doesn't change the specular map, and doesn't cast shadows (making it VERY fast).

This means that when you play Quake 4, it will look a bit flat in some places, because ambient lights light the normals directly from the front. But it will be fast.

Couple this with the fact per poly hit detection has gone for online play, and an improved netcode, as well as dozens of other tweaks, and you can be sure Quake 4 MP will be smooth, much much smoother than Doom 3 at least.




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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 04:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


o'dium wrote:
Couple this with the fact per poly hit detection has gone for online play, and an improved netcode, as well as dozens of other tweaks, and you can be sure Quake 3 MP will be smooth, much much smoother than Doom 3 at least.
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 06:05 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This is exactly the kind of post i was on about:

http://forums.ravensoft.com/ib/ikonboar ... 10;t=33723

"ok i have

Geforce 6600GT OC PCI-Express
1GB Dual Channel
Athlon 64 3000+ OC
Nforce4 Platinum motherboard.

can i run this game on high?"

:olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo:
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 07:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Err, well according to SOAPBoy here:
http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10908
The 6600GT 'doesn't cut it'.

So I think you're making a naive assumption that everyone with a good PC really knows what their hardware is capable of.



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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 09:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


PC all the way for me, my PC is more than good enough (6800Ultra, 1gig PC3200, AMD 64bit 3400) and I despise controllers.
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 10:05 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


So what are the minimum and recommended specs? :paranoid:
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 11:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Don't have the pc to play it so i'll be going to strogos.
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 11:18 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Right next to your picture.
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 01:14 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hopefully by the release date, I'll be running this

Athlon64 3500+
NForce4
1gb
GeForce 6800 Ultra, o/c (PCI-E)

with 5.1 surround.

I know that's a heck of a rig, but are we really sure that Q4 isn't going to hammer it anyway? The game is trimmed down a lot compared to D3, but that's not really saying much at all.
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 02:09 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dual 2.5GHz G5
1GB PC3200
160GB SATA
Geforce6800 Ultra (AGP)

...not sure what to expect in terms of software support.... *sigh* :(
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PostPosted: 10-04-2005 02:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Psyche911 wrote:
You'll have twice the FPS as me:


and you'll probably get 1.5x what i do

athlon xp2800+ @ 2.0GHz (ie- not o/c'ed)
gf4-4800se 128MB *cough*
1GB corsair xms
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R00k wrote:
Hopefully by the release date, I'll be running this

Athlon64 3500+
NForce4
1gb
GeForce 6800 Ultra, o/c (PCI-E)

with 5.1 surround.

I know that's a heck of a rig, but are we really sure that Q4 isn't going to hammer it anyway? The game is trimmed down a lot compared to D3, but that's not really saying much at all.


Dude that should be fine. Why do people always think they need the latest 7900XTX gfx and 5GHz cpu's to play new games? I dunno about you, but for mp I don't play higher than 1024x768 (and q3 I play at 800x600). Your rig will easily get 80+fps in q4 mp, with medium to high details.
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You really think that would get 80 fps?

Like I said, I know it's a lot slimmer than Doom, but it's still the D3 engine innit?
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it'll be capped at 60fps afaik anyway.
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menkent wrote:
it'll be capped at 60fps afaik anyway.


bingo
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Athlon64 3500+
1 GB RAM
Nvidia 7800 GT OC (PCI-E)
MX1000 (of course)

Yeeeahh, booyyyy!!!!!
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Duhard wrote:
menkent wrote:
it'll be capped at 60fps afaik anyway.


bingo


Surely not? Maybe an option for servers to enforce, but I can't see why they would put a hard cap on the whole game at 60.
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It's because the physics go freaky above 60 FPS.
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Dunno, my 6600Gt plays Doom3 really well, don't expect much trouble with Q4, might ratchet up my processor overclock a bit, though.
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im a hardware hero :/ will this game even start up on this:

-amd 2500+ barton
-radeon 9600pro
-1gig dual channel?

and what's more important, new vidcard or processor?
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Vidcard.

D3 SP ran perfectly fine (1024x786 detail slightly above medium) on my Radeon 9800 SE (mobile 2400+, 512 MB DC PC3200) btw, and i got a 2nd hand 9800 Pro that overclocks well. I'm not gonna buy a new vidcard before i see how Q4 runs (and looks) on my 9800 Pro.
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o'dium wrote:
r3t wrote:
I hope they did a good job optimizing the (lighting on the) multiplayer maps. The stock Doom 3 MP maps run pretty shitty for me, but there are some custom maps that look just as good but on which I get very good framerates.


Like I said. The game uses a combination of different tricks for the outdoor and MP levels.

Firt of all... <snip>


That sounds very plausible, and would be the way to go for Raven to create good performing and good looking maps. Is this information you deducted from the screenshots or has there been any kind of announcement made regarding the technical aspects of the engine?
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r3t wrote:
o'dium wrote:
r3t wrote:
I hope they did a good job optimizing the (lighting on the) multiplayer maps. The stock Doom 3 MP maps run pretty shitty for me, but there are some custom maps that look just as good but on which I get very good framerates.


Like I said. The game uses a combination of different tricks for the outdoor and MP levels.

Firt of all... <snip>


That sounds very plausible, and would be the way to go for Raven to create good performing and good looking maps. Is this information you deducted from the screenshots or has there been any kind of announcement made regarding the technical aspects of the engine?


I bit of both, plus i know a bit from somebody who has played it.
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PostPosted: 10-07-2005 03:47 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I will be playing it on:

x2 AMD 4500+ Dual Core
x2 Crossfire ATI 1800XT
4GB DDR400
24' Dell LCD
x2 100GB 10,000RPM Raptors

HEY GUAYS, WILL MY PEECEE RUN QUACK FEOUR ON HIGH QUALEETY?
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