Firefly addiction....

Post by **hax103** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:32 am

ScooterG wrote: ...Who cancelled this show?!? When is the next movie? Will more episodes be commissioned by someone other than FOX? HELP!!!!

ETA: I even miss the Mutant Enemy at the end. "Grrr. Arrggh."

The show was cancelled because of insufficient fans. Take a look at below:

Date Episode Nielson-Rating Show-Ranking
September 20, 2002 (Series Premiere) 4.0 14/15
September 27, 2002 Bushwhacked 3.6 14/16
October 4, 2002 Our Mrs. Reynolds 3.3 12/12
October 18, 2002 Jaynestown 2.7 13/14

Fox wanted it to succeed, but if a new show (which is competing with 12-16 others) starts out ranked 14 of 15, then you might say, "well maybe next week it will shoot up" but it winds up at the bottom - 14 of 16 and then you might say, "well we will give it one more chance" and on the third week it does 12 of 12 shows. DOH!

Also, it doesnt take a genius to see the ratings ( which is roughly millions of viewers ) falling:

Ep#1: 4.0

Ep#2: 3.6

Ep#3: 3.3
This is not the trend any studio wants to see!

I'd guess anybody would cancel the fucker.

Some episodes afterwards were shown out of order because they became "space-fillers" which had been paid for. In short, Firefly was the most unpopular show they had. If ur first 3 episodes completely tank, game over.

If you want more Firefly, plunk down your cash for tickets! Serenity is not doing well at the box office.

Post by **angst** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:35 am

I bought the DVD's after really enjoying the movie. Now I only have three episodes left to watch. I really hope they make some more, it's very annoying to find something that you like a lot and it's already cancelled after only one series.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:22 am

Riddla:

[xeno]Julios wrote:
ScooterG wrote:I watched ALL of the Special Features and I just don't recall them saying anything about the epsiodes airing out of order...gonna have to go back and watch again.
reason I thought the extras talked about it was coz of this quote:

riddla wrote:They aired 11 before cancellation, but made 14. If you've got the DVD set watch the extras, they explain the whole FOX debacle.
Two things:

1) do the dvd extras talk about the fox debacle as you said they did

2) if they do, do they give fox's perspective on the mess-up?

http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewto ... ht=debacle

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:22 am

Riddla:

ScooterG wrote:I watched ALL of the Special Features and I just don't recall them saying anything about the epsiodes airing out of order...gonna have to go back and watch again.

reason I thought the extras talked about it was coz of this quote:

riddla wrote:They aired 11 before cancellation, but made 14. If you've got the DVD set watch the extras, they explain the whole FOX debacle.

Two things:

1) do the dvd extras talk about the fox debacle as you said they did

2) if they do, do they give fox's perspective on the mess-up?

Post by **hax103** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:32 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i watched all of firefly in two days, and Holy shit, i love it.. Watching serenity.. it dident feel right, it was more EPIC then the Show. i felt though that the show was building up to somthing! but the movie dident fit at all..

yeah. the movie didnt feel right to me either.

Post by **hax103** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:32 am

most excellent!

riddla wrote:Some good Firefly quotes:
Simon: "How do i know you won't shoot me in my sleep?"
Mal:"One thing you should know about me... if i'm going to shoot you, you'll be standing right in front of me and you'll be armed."

Wash: "Everything looks good from here... (beat...playing with plastic dinosaurs over his console) Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive."

(as Stegosaurus) "We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land'."

Kaylee: "Goin' on a year now and I ain't had nothin' twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries!"

Zoë: "Shepard, isn't the Bible kind of specific about killing?"
Book: "Very specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzy around the area of kneecaps."

Simon: "I've never shot anyone before."
Book: "I was there, son. I'm fairly sure you haven't shot anyone yet."

Mal: "Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might want to see to that."

Mal: "And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"

Book: "If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater."

Book: "What are we up to, sweetheart?"

River: "Fixing your Bible."

Book: "I, um...(alarmed)...what?"

River: "Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logistics - doesn't make sense." (she's marked up the bible, crossed out passages)

Book: "No, no. You - you can't...

River: "So we'll integrate non-progressional evolution theory with God's creation of Eden. Eleven inherent metaphoric parallels already there. Eleven. Important number. Prime number. One goes into the house of eleven eleven times, but always comes out one. Noah's ark is a problem."

Book: "Really?"

River: "We'll have to call it early quantum state phenomenon. Only way to fit 5000 species of mammal on the same boat." (rips out page)

Wash: "And then came the lying to me about it, which for me is sort of the highlight of this little adventure."

Zoe: "Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity?"

Wash: "You're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes."

Zoe: "No one's gonna force you to go, Jayne. As has been stated -- this job's strictly speculative."

Jayne: "Good. 'Cause I don't know these folks, don't much care to."

Mal: "They're whores."

Jayne: "I'm in."

Wash: "Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction."

Zoe: "We live in a space ship, dear."

Post by **ScooterG** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:13 pm

hax103 wrote: If you want more Firefly, plunk down your cash for tickets! Serenity is not doing well at the box office.

I did my part; I saw it in the theatre twice already. Now you guys go do it!

Post by **Underpants?** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:06 pm

so wait... what is shitdler is posting above? Those were the highlight quotes of the series / movie?

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:23 am

just started watching the series. fucking excellent stuff all right :icon14:

i can't believe those dicks at Fox canned it after only one series

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:16 am

seremtan wrote:just started watching the series. fucking excellent stuff all right :icon14:

i can't believe those dicks at Fox canned it after only one series

be sure to watch serenity after you're done the series.

and make sure u watch the series in the right order

see bottom of this page:

http://hometheaterinfo.com/firefly.htm

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:19 am

i already got the right order from elsewhere, but thanks anyway :icon14:

i'm up to shindig at the mo so plenty to go yet

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:41 am

seremtan wrote:i already got the right order from elsewhere, but thanks anyway :icon14:

i'm up to shindig at the mo so plenty to go yet

ah i envy you - there are some fantastic episodes up ahead...

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:59 am

Damn it, i dont know if mine where in order now!

Ahh, yea, mine where done in order.. and actually, it was VERY well put togeather in that order.. really let the Story unfold Slowly, and make you want to know about the Crew members more and more.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:55 am

I always thought ScooterG was a guy.
I was wondering why I was always getting a hard on reading her posts.

Post by **Pauly** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:14 am

Out of Gas is superb

Post by **Pauly** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:17 am

Also, we all play a part in a series like this getting canned, yet utter shite that is reality TV keeps going.

Of course when I say 'we' I really mean you, Yanks. How could you all not watch this when it was on???!!

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:26 am

Pauly wrote:Out of Gas is superb

aye solid dramatic piece.

I liked the realistic violence in "Ariel".

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:50 am

Pauly wrote:Also, we all play a part in a series like this getting canned, yet utter shite that is reality TV keeps going.

Of course when I say 'we' I really mean you, Yanks. How could you all not watch this when it was on???!!

they probably did. it's probably just all the anti-imperial, anti-war undertones in firefly were deemed unpatriotic so fox canned it

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:57 am

your name backwards sounds a bit like "Nightmares"

cool.

Post by **seremtan** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:53 am

your name backward sounds a bit like a brand of fertiliser "Soilujonex - by Monsanto"

Post by **Underpants?** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:53 pm

Pauly wrote:Also, we all play a part in a series like this getting canned, yet utter shite that is reality TV keeps going.

Of course when I say 'we' I really mean you, Yanks. How could you all not watch this when it was on???!!

still watching "Lost," there are ya, clark cunt?

Post by **ScooterG** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:06 pm

FragaGeddon wrote:I always thought ScooterG was a guy.
I was wondering why I was always getting a hard on reading her posts.

Nice!

Post by **ScooterG** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:09 pm

Pauly wrote:Also, we all play a part in a series like this getting canned, yet utter shite that is reality TV keeps going.

Of course when I say 'we' I really mean you, Yanks. How could you all not watch this when it was on???!!

Yeah, I actually do feel kinda bad about not watching it when it was on...I didn't even here about it until I went to see Serenity. Y'know what's interesting, though? If someone had told me to watch a western in outer space I would've told them that I've already seen Star Wars and you can't improve upon it. Me = Occasionally stupid and judgemental.

Post by **seremtan** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:03 pm

Pauly wrote:Out of Gas is superb

just watched it, and it sure is. misleading title though. 'broken catalyser' or 'out of air' would have been more appropriate :icon25:

i'm still waiting to see river's kung fu antics like in the movie

Post by **seremtan** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:03 pm

ScooterG wrote:
Pauly wrote:Also, we all play a part in a series like this getting canned, yet utter shite that is reality TV keeps going.

Of course when I say 'we' I really mean you, Yanks. How could you all not watch this when it was on???!!
Me = Occasionally stupid and judgemental.

= American, which was kind of pauly's point