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PostPosted: 06-28-2016 06:41 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i would like to ask you audio people for some opinions on spackers ooops i mean speakers :P

not a surround setup , just some bookshelf ones , for around $300cad a pair

they would be paired with this amp

Pioneer VSX-830-K

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/pio ... f178eben02



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PostPosted: 06-28-2016 06:45 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What does your room look like?




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the room is a 12x12 box with wood floor



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$300 CAD isn't much for a pair. Also a square room and wooden floor is definitely an issue.

Speaker positioning will be very important in your case, your system will only sound as good as your room and you're already starting with a bit of a disadvantage. Do you have speaker stands?

At the same time, your room is small so you can probably go for a bass-reflex setup. I don't think that you need a lot of power, so you can focus on having a decent range from a two-channel speaker (tweeter+woofer) with good imaging.

I'd look for something used, just make sure it matches your amp's specs.




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Sorry if this is not very helpful, but I think the best way is to test some speakers @home.
Some people like their speakers "neutral" some like more bass. It also depends on your position/distance to the speakers.
Maybe try some small KEF, Canton or B&W speakers. ;)
For speaker cable i really like the kimber 4pr, it should be enough for some bookshelf speakers.
Have fun, testing speakers is very cool!

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save some $ and go with an Onkyo



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ToxicBug wrote:
$300 CAD isn't much for a pair. Also a square room and wooden floor is definitely an issue.

Speaker positioning will be very important in your case, your system will only sound as good as your room and you're already starting with a bit of a disadvantage. Do you have speaker stands?

At the same time, your room is small so you can probably go for a bass-reflex setup. I don't think that you need a lot of power, so you can focus on having a decent range from a two-channel speaker (tweeter+woofer) with good imaging.

I'd look for something used, just make sure it matches your amp's specs.


thx for the reply .yea everything you say makes sense.

i should have been a bit more detailed.

they will be used for 2 channel music listening.



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AndyW wrote:
Sorry if this is not very helpful, but I think the best way is to test some speakers @home.
Some people like their speakers "neutral" some like more bass. It also depends on your position/distance to the speakers.
Maybe try some small KEF, Canton or B&W speakers. ;)
For speaker cable i really like the kimber 4pr, it should be enough for some bookshelf speakers.
Have fun, testing speakers is very cool!

Memphis wrote:
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:olo: :up:



good brands and advice , unfortunately those brands are unavailable to me here :(

*plus i need to stay reasonably within budget.



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SoM wrote:
save some $ and go with an Onkyo


i agree

honestly i was planning Onkyo but anything within my budget did not seem to playback 192k-24bit proper formats from usb stick.

that was really the most important thing



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i ended up ordering Polk Audio RTIA3 in cherry

i was attracted to the 6.5" driver for 2 channel.

hopefully they will sound good , if not i can waddle my arse closeby to bestbuy and return them



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+1 for Polk :up:




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Whatever setup you end up with, check out sonarworks speaker/room calibration software.. you measure your rooms frequency response and EQ whatever stands out to make it flat. You can also emulate rooms and other speakers.. some expensive studio monitors have this room correction option already built in, but this is all new tech and very affordable. For 300 bucks you get the software and measuring mic, the result is you save a couple $k on room treatment and a couple more you would spend on speakers that give you a somewhat flat sound...

I made a mistake and bought new. headphones just before i came acros all this because they also have headphone calibration sofrware which gets you a flat response with max 3db peaks.. if you send them your phones they measure it and get you an eq curve that only peaks for 1db.. or you can just buy a set directly from them pre measured with itts unique eq curve...




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PostPosted: 06-28-2016 12:52 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Have a look at Nubert speakers. High quality for a reasonable price. http://www.nubert.de Iirc there was a discussion about Nuberts some months ago here in the forum...



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Memphis wrote:
Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.


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Memphis wrote:
Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.


lol. Seriously you fuck, write a book. I'd buy it.




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Memphis wrote:
Audio Person could be a cool new gender fluid superhero.

Also, AuralMan sounds way too risque.




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PostPosted: 06-29-2016 11:14 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


dubz wrote:
Whatever setup you end up with, check out sonarworks speaker/room calibration software.. you measure your rooms frequency response and EQ whatever stands out to make it flat. You can also emulate rooms and other speakers.. some expensive studio monitors have this room correction option already built in, but this is all new tech and very affordable. For 300 bucks you get the software and measuring mic, the result is you save a couple $k on room treatment and a couple more you would spend on speakers that give you a somewhat flat sound...

I made a mistake and bought new. headphones just before i came acros all this because they also have headphone calibration sofrware which gets you a flat response with max 3db peaks.. if you send them your phones they measure it and get you an eq curve that only peaks for 1db.. or you can just buy a set directly from them pre measured with itts unique eq curve...


thanks for taking the time to post dubz :up:

i am going to educate myself about the stuff you said.



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Have a look at Nubert speakers. High quality for a reasonable price. http://www.nubert.de Iirc there was a discussion about Nuberts some months ago here in the forum...


they seem ok

there is no way to get them here in canada without doubling the price from tariff and duties



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get the sony's!




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plained wrote:
good brands and advice , unfortunately those brands are unavailable to me here :(

*plus i need to stay reasonably within budget.



They're probably cheap to import now the pound is through the floor :D.

I have an Onkoyo 7.1 receiver and pretty second-hand Sony front and rear speakers. They sound great for films :shrug:. I'd love to invest in some nice B&W speakers but I'm just not sure it would be worth it for me given I rarely watch films.




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well theyre germany speakers and i am from canada so the pound thing wont do much.

plus duties dont fluctuate with currency ey :p



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i myself use some old radioshack 70's mij receiver thing!

it has nice looking transformers in it and it has the metal encased power transistors that i insist on



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plained wrote:
well theyre germany speakers and i am from canada so the pound thing wont do much.

plus duties dont fluctuate with currency ey :p


KEF and B&W are British :)




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ah excuse me ey i mistakenly thought you were referring to the Nuberts



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they seem ok


Sorry, but they are not just OK. They are great. Been living with the NuPro A-200s for a good year now, as monitor speakers for the PC. Nationalism /off




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plained wrote:
they seem ok


Sorry, but they are not just OK. They are great. Been living with the NuPro A-200s for a good year now, as monitor speakers for the PC. Nationalism /off


Those look nice but they're 345 EUR each.




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i didnt care for the looks :shrug:

i like to have the option of taking the grils off .

no grills at all is something i could not handle.

i was shocked no larger drivers for those prices !

i am not saying theyre bad in any way, just expressing my impressions without hearing them,



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ToxicBug wrote:
Those look nice but they're 345 EUR each.


True, out of his range. 300 CanDolls is not something you go fishing for a decent pair of speakers, though. Only used ones. Maybe some Brauns ;) Nationalism /off again. No, honestly even older Braun models sound pretty fantastic. I got the M12 as stereo speakers with Kimber cables, spectacular. Maybe look for the LS 550 wall-mount speakers? Got a pair of those as well. Flat as they are, they do sound good.




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yea those old brauns sound killer

i remember i hade heard a set in the 80's and when i went to see them i could not believe the sound coming out of them!

theyre were tiny!



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Ferrao10 wrote:
ToxicBug wrote:
Those look nice but they're 345 EUR each.


True, out of his range. 300 CanDolls is not something you go fishing for a decent pair of speakers, though. Only used ones. Maybe some Brauns ;) Nationalism /off again. No, honestly even older Braun models sound pretty fantastic. I got the M12 as stereo speakers with Kimber cables, spectacular. Maybe look for the LS 550 wall-mount speakers? Got a pair of those as well. Flat as they are, they do sound good.


My speakers are Danish, headphones are German, no complaints :up:

British DAC/preamp though :disgust:




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ToxicBug wrote:
British DAC/preamp though :disgust:

True that. The UK kills at those.




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Ferrao10 wrote:
ToxicBug wrote:
British DAC/preamp though :disgust:

True that. The UK kills at those.


I'm actually not happy with mine to be honest. My first one broke, luckily it was right before its warranty expired. We'll see how long the replacement lasts.




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ToxicBug wrote:
I'm actually not happy with mine to be honest. My first one broke, luckily it was right before its warranty expired. We'll see how long the replacement lasts.

You did not tell the brand, did you?




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Ferrao10 wrote:
ToxicBug wrote:
I'm actually not happy with mine to be honest. My first one broke, luckily it was right before its warranty expired. We'll see how long the replacement lasts.

You did not tell the brand, did you?


Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus




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