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PostPosted: 03-14-2005 01:14 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


11:05 PM on channel 4.

\o/

Kubrick's rather well done adaptation of the novel, if you haven't seen it before i can't recommend it enough, if you have seen it before i trust you'll be watching it again



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PostPosted: 03-14-2005 01:15 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it was ok...not sure why it was banned tho...part from the eye bits....ergh
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he banned it himself.. :/

(i dont know why .. he was a perfectionist, maybe one of the screens was slightly framed wrong? :icon32: )



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PostPosted: 03-14-2005 01:23 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'd be surprised if they even showed that on cable on this side of the pond.... :smirk:
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R00k wrote:
I'd be surprised if they even showed that on cable on this side of the pond.... :smirk:


I've seen it a couple times on cable in HD. :shrug:
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PostPosted: 03-14-2005 01:49 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Really? What channel(s)?

Was it edited?
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InHD or HDNetMovies or something like that. Was included w/ digital cable package for a while, now it is subscription. :mad:

I didn't watch it all the way through, so I didn't see the rape, but the scene where they were riding the giant dildoes around the house was intact as was the scene where the desensitiation therapy starts. Unfortunately, I think I did see some cock, IIRC. Unedited I'm pretty sure.
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phantasmagoria wrote:
he banned it himself.. :/

(i dont know why .. he was a perfectionist, maybe one of the screens was slightly framed wrong? :icon32: )


he pulled it because he was getting death threats
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:rolleyes: lol, fkn bullshit!:rolleyes:
the REAL reason he pulled it:
Because of the copy-cat violence that the film was blamed for, Kubrick withdrew it from circulation in Britain about a year after its release. [Shortly after the ban was instituted, a 17-year old Dutch girl was raped in 1973 in Lancashire, at the hands of men singing Singing in the Rain. And a 16-year-old boy had beaten a younger child while wearing Alex's uniform of white overalls, black bowler hat and combat boots. Both were considered 'proof', after the fact, that the film had an influential effect on violence in society.] In preparation for a new 1972 release for US audiences, Kubrick replaced about 30 seconds of footage to get an R-rating, as opposed to the X-rating that the MPAA initially assigned to it. (The replacement footage was for two scenes: the high-speed orgy scene in Alex's bedroom, and the rape scene projected at the Ludovico Medical Center.) In the spring of 2000, an uncut version of the film was re-released to British screens.
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busetibi wrote:
:rolleyes: lol, fkn bullshit!:rolleyes:
the REAL reason he pulled it:
Because of the copy-cat violence that the film was blamed for, Kubrick withdrew it from circulation in Britain about a year after its release. [Shortly after the ban was instituted, a 17-year old Dutch girl was raped in 1973 in Lancashire, at the hands of men singing Singing in the Rain. And a 16-year-old boy had beaten a younger child while wearing Alex's uniform of white overalls, black bowler hat and combat boots. Both were considered 'proof', after the fact, that the film had an influential effect on violence in society.] In preparation for a new 1972 release for US audiences, Kubrick replaced about 30 seconds of footage to get an R-rating, as opposed to the X-rating that the MPAA initially assigned to it. (The replacement footage was for two scenes: the high-speed orgy scene in Alex's bedroom, and the rape scene projected at the Ludovico Medical Center.) In the spring of 2000, an uncut version of the film was re-released to British screens.



so according to you, he pulled it for copycat violence which didn't happen until after he pulled it?
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PostPosted: 03-14-2005 11:09 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Personally I think Kubrick pulled it because it's unfuckingbelievably boring.
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no not according to me,its according to the facts,
let me ask you,
were you in the uk when the movie came out?
heh, im betting you were still a sparkle in your fathers eye,
nm,
once the movie came out,most of the skin heads started to dress like "alex".
hence him banning it because the uk youth were acting it out on the streets.
he pulled it when he saw/papers bitching about it being to violent.
the fact that the girl was raped after it was pulled,shows that the kids of the day were already acting like "alex"
hence the statment
"Both were considered 'proof', after the fact, that the film had an influential effect on violence in society.]"

and before you ask, yes,i was a skinhead @that time,but we didnt change to the CO mind set,we kept on beating up other football teams supporters :)
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busetibi wrote:
no not according to me,its according to the facts,
let me ask you,
were you in the uk when the movie came out?
heh, im betting you were still a sparkle in your fathers eye,
nm,
once the movie came out,most of the skin heads started to dress like "alex".
hence him banning it because the uk youth were acting it out on the streets.
he pulled it when he saw/papers bitching about it being to violent.
the fact that the girl was raped after it was pulled,shows that the kids of the day were already acting like "alex"
hence the statment
"Both were considered 'proof', after the fact, that the film had an influential effect on violence in society.]"

and before you ask, yes,i was a skinhead @that time,but we didnt change to the CO mind set,we kept on beating up other football teams supporters :)


I'm very proud of you being a skinhead in 71 bu that doesn't make your violent past the reason he withdrew the film...

http://www.answers.com/topic/a-clockwork-orange

in a television documentary made after Kubrick's death, his widow Christiane confirmed rumours that Kubrick had withdrawn A Clockwork Orange from UK distribution on police advice after threats were made against Kubrick and his family.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/trivia

One of the reasons why Kubrick withdrew the movie from distribution in the U.K. were, according to his wife Christiane, several death threats that his family received because of the film.
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PostPosted: 03-14-2005 11:24 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


OMG we found someone older than booger
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PostPosted: 03-15-2005 12:45 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Stanley Kubrick's randomly ultra-violent, over-indulgent, graphically-stylized film of the near future. It was a terrifying, gaudy film adaptation of Anthony Burgess' 1962 satiric, futuristic novel of the same name. This was Kubrick's ninth feature film, appearing between 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) and Barry Lyndon (1975). The luridly-colorful set designs by John Barry, costume design by Milena Canonero, the synthesized electronic score by Walter Carlos, the colorful and innovative cinematography by John Alcott, and the hybrid, jargonistic, pun-filled language of Burgess' novel (called Nadsat - an onomatopoetic, expressive combination of English, Russian, and slang), produce a striking, unforgettable film.

The controversial film's title and other names in the film have meaning. The title alludes to:

a clockwork (mechanical, artificial, robotic) human being (orange - similar to orang-utan, a hairy ape-like creature), and
the Cockney phrase from East London, "as queer as a clockwork orange" - indicating something bizarre internally, but appearing natural, human, and normal on the surface
The film's poster and tagline advertised its themes of violence in a police state, teen delinquency, technological control, and dehumanization:

Being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape, ultra-violence and Beethoven.

Originally rated X, A Clockwork Orange was nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing and Best Screenplay, but was defeated in each category by William Friedkin's The French Connection (1971). Because of the copy-cat violence that the film was blamed for, Kubrick withdrew it from circulation in Britain about a year after its release. [Shortly after the ban was instituted, a 17-year old Dutch girl was raped in 1973 in Lancashire, at the hands of men singing Singing in the Rain. And a 16-year-old boy had beaten a younger child while wearing Alex's uniform of white overalls, black bowler hat and combat boots. Both were considered 'proof', after the fact, that the film had an influential effect on violence in society.] In preparation for a new 1972 release for US audiences, Kubrick replaced about 30 seconds of footage to get an R-rating, as opposed to the X-rating that the MPAA initially assigned to it. (The replacement footage was for two scenes: the high-speed orgy scene in Alex's bedroom, and the rape scene projected at the Ludovico Medical Center.) In the spring of 2000, an uncut version of the film was re-released to British screens.


The frightening, chilling and tantalizing film (a morality play) raises many thematic questions and presents a thought-provoking parable: How can evil be eradicated in modern society? If the state can deprive an individual of his free will, making him 'a clockwork orange,' what does this say about the nightmarish, behavioral modification technologies of punishment and crime? Do we lose our humanity if we are deprived of the free-will choice between good and evil?

well i still stick to my reply,
and this:
"I'm very proud of you being a skinhead in 71 bu that doesn't make your violent past the reason he withdrew the film..."
stop being a twat,if you wish to revert to petty dross then go for your life.
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Geebs wrote:
OMG we found someone older than booger



but not as old as lars ;)

edit: twas his birthday the other day
HB m8 :)




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PostPosted: 03-15-2005 01:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


One of the best films ever made.
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Not a patch on the book though.
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it doesn't do a bad job though



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PostPosted: 03-15-2005 03:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the movie is incredible.
the opening scene is awesome!
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So awesome, I've completely forgotten it
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busetibi wrote:
:rolleyes: lol, fkn bullshit!:rolleyes:
the REAL reason he pulled it:


who's the twat?
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Geebs wrote:
So awesome, I've completely forgotten it


you're propably drinkning to much :p
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