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reefsurfer
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Posted: 03-17-2005 06:35 PM

[lvlshot]http://cerberus.gamershell.com/screenshots/8070/163415_full.jpg[/lvlshot]
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[lvlshot]http://cerberus.gamershell.com/screenshots/8070/163404_full.jpg[/lvlshot]

sooo...whats the game about? Lumberjacks?

"And im proud to announce our new gametype called Cut that tree and bring it back to base.. or as we call it here at the Epic office, CTTABIBTB."

"How ya like those apples folks..."

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dzjepp
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Posted: 03-17-2005 06:36 PM

cums

tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.

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Guest

Posted: 03-17-2005 06:37 PM

I'd prefer less emphasis on graphics and more on morphable enviroments. Or in other words I'd rather see a less graphical world that deforms realisticly to things happening around.

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The HavoX
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Posted: 03-17-2005 06:37 PM

dzjepp wrote:
2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.
Robots (the movie) > The Incredibles

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Fender
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Posted: 03-17-2005 06:38 PM

shiny trees

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Guest

Posted: 03-17-2005 06:41 PM

You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

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sirstrongbad
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Posted: 03-17-2005 06:44 PM

Kracus wrote:
You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

amen. this is a reason that i loved Red Faction. blowing up stuff was so much fun.

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tnf
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Posted: 03-17-2005 06:52 PM

So what kind of machine setup do they actually use to build this graphics engine?

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Guest

Posted: 03-17-2005 07:01 PM

sirstrongbad wrote:
Kracus wrote:
You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

amen. this is a reason that i loved Red Faction. blowing up stuff was so much fun.

I enjoyed red faction but found the levels to be a little TOO deformable in some situations and the gameplay and maps were kinda crummy too. But the idea was definitely there! Now if we could get a company to make it work well with gameplay we'd probably have my new favorite game. I heard HL2 was a lot like that actualy...

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sirstrongbad
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Posted: 03-17-2005 07:08 PM

Kracus wrote:
sirstrongbad wrote:
Kracus wrote:
You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

amen. this is a reason that i loved Red Faction. blowing up stuff was so much fun.

I heard HL2 was a lot like that actualy...

yes and no. there are many crates, boxes, and other things that you can pick up, throw, break, etc. but the world is not deformable like Red Faction. HL2 gave the player the abillity to pick up random objects off the ground and throw them at enemies as a weapon. (shoes don't work very well, by the way)

come to think of it i never played all the way through Red Faction. i think i got tired of the repetitive cave-like level design pretty early on. going in with unlimited rockets and grenades and blowing everything up was great, though.

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booker
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Posted: 03-17-2005 07:25 PM

http://www.idvinc.com/html/image_browser/UE3_images.htm

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Psyche911
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Posted: 03-17-2005 07:35 PM

reefsurfer wrote:

sooo...whats the game about? Lumberjacks?

Keep in mind, that isn't a game at all. It's just a demonstration of their engine in its current state, not something to be played. In other words, it's like Doom 3.

You'll see in-game shots in a few months, I'd bet. Probably on Xbox2.

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Scourge
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Posted: 03-17-2005 07:41 PM

Psyche911 wrote:
reefsurfer wrote:

sooo...whats the game about? Lumberjacks?

Keep in mind, that isn't a game at all. It's just a demonstration of their engine in its current state, not something to be played. In other words, it's like Doom 3.

You'll see in-game shots in a few months, I'd bet. Probably on Xbox2.

Quite a few people have a hard time understanding that it's not a game. There is no Unreal 3 even planned yet AFAIK. Maybe they need to rename their engine to cut the confusion.

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Massive Quasars
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Posted: 03-17-2005 07:46 PM

dzjepp wrote:
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tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.

The animated movie graphics are not cutting edge. This was done intentionally on the part of the animators. They wanted a certain look from the movies (or so I've heard).

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DooMer
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Posted: 03-17-2005 08:03 PM

meh

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rep
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Posted: 03-17-2005 08:34 PM

Kracus wrote:
You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

It's been done in an old PS2 game.

I believe battlefield 2 has some rubble elements in some brushes... ie, telephone poles that can be blown up.

That sort of shit is so heavy on the CPU and networking that we won't get realistic physics for at least another decade.

SpeedTree has been out for years.

I don't mean to sound like a faggot, but the tiling grass ruins the whole thing for me. I hope what I'm seeing is an effect of crosshatching grass sprite polygons repeating and NOT a repeating texture.

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Posted: 03-17-2005 09:00 PM

Massive Quasars wrote:
dzjepp wrote:
cums

tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.

The animated movie graphics are not cutting edge. This was done intentionally on the part of the animators. They wanted a certain look from the movies (or so I've heard).

Actually, much of the Incredibles is cutting edge stuff. Believe it or not, it's harder to make a nice cartoon looking movie that people forget it's CG than it is to make a realistic CG movie.

With the exception being The Spirits Within.

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obsidian
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Posted: 03-17-2005 09:07 PM

Yeah, don't see the point. Other than the fact that those were modeled with SpeedTree, what exactly are we looking at? Any actual new technology that they're using?

I'm starting to get the impression that Epic is using game art to promote their Unreal3 engine rather actual game engine technology. Not impressed.

For pete's sake, lvlshot that sucker!

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rep
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Posted: 03-17-2005 09:09 PM

Actually, Epic is excellent at marketing their engine. The Unreal Engine has had just as much mass appeal in the game community as any engine I can think of and then some.

Hot.

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inolen
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Posted: 03-17-2005 09:12 PM

rep wrote:
Actually, Epic is excellent at marketing their engine. The Unreal Engine has had just as much mass appeal in the game community as any engine I can think of and then some.

Hot.

Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's.

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rep
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Posted: 03-17-2005 09:14 PM

Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun.

You act like UT and UT2003/2004 weren't fun. I had a fucking blast in those games.

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inolen
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Posted: 03-17-2005 09:15 PM

rep wrote:
Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun.

Speaking we are talking about engines and their appeal, yes.

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rep
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Posted: 03-17-2005 10:14 PM

It's no concern of ours what their code is like. If it works, it works.

If you can make it work better, then you'd obviously be working for them or a better company.

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Don Carlos
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Posted: 03-17-2005 11:19 PM

Just looks like a high poly tree to me

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Don Carlos
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Posted: 03-17-2005 11:21 PM

rep wrote:
It's no concern of ours what their code is like. If it works, it works.

If you can make it work better, then you'd obviously be working for them or a better company.

inolen probably could do it better...

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Eraser
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Posted: 03-18-2005 12:22 AM

I'm not familiar with this speedtree thing, but I reckon the point of these screenshots is to display the engine's abilities to render organic structures with high performance. I'm also betting that the leaves on those trees are rendered using certain algorithms rather than modelling them one by one.

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Eraser
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Posted: 03-18-2005 12:25 AM

rep wrote:
Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun.

From a gamer's point of view, probably not, unless the sloppyness of the code introduces bugs and hurts performance of the engine.

From a developer's point of view, absolutely yes. It's a nightmare to work on poorly written and badly documented code.

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o'dium
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Posted: 03-18-2005 12:28 AM

YAY BLOOMS!

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CaseDogg
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Posted: 03-18-2005 12:35 AM

looks like photographs.

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Ryoki
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Posted: 03-18-2005 12:59 AM

Kracus wrote:
I'd prefer less emphasis on graphics and more on morphable enviroments. Or in other words I'd rather see a less graphical world that deforms realisticly to things happening around.

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HM-PuFFNSTuFF
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Posted: 03-18-2005 01:00 AM

o'dium wrote:
YAY BLOOMS!

hAROLD Blooms? St Patrick's day?

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Pext
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Posted: 03-18-2005 01:02 AM

hm... from a distance the trees look all fine. but when you get close you realize that there is something wrong with the bumpmapping. they shoul add an additional shader to prevent the shiny effect afterwards.

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HM-PuFFNSTuFF
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Posted: 03-18-2005 01:04 AM

it's no quake 4

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Ryoki
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Posted: 03-18-2005 01:27 AM

inolen wrote:
Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's.

You must realise that rep's approach to things in life is an air of overconfidence combined with a large amount of half correct knowledge of things that he attempts to use to impress people.

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HM-PuFFNSTuFF
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Posted: 03-18-2005 01:29 AM

Ryoki wrote:
inolen wrote:
Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's.

You must realise that rep's approach to things in life is an air of overconfidence combined with a large amount of half correct knowledge of things that he attempts to use to impress people.

well summed up

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*cums* tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.

I'd prefer less emphasis on graphics and more on morphable enviroments. Or in other words I'd rather see a less graphical world that deforms realisticly to things happening around.

dzjepp wrote:2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games. Robots (the movie) > The Incredibles

shiny trees

You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

Kracus wrote:You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved. amen. this is a reason that i loved Red Faction. blowing up stuff was so much fun.

So what kind of machine setup do they actually use to build this graphics engine?

http://www.idvinc.com/html/image_browser/UE3_images.htm

reefsurfer wrote:sooo...whats the game about? Lumberjacks? Keep in mind, that isn't a game at all. It's just a demonstration of their engine in its current state, not something to be played. In other words, it's like Doom 3. You'll see in-game shots in a few months, I'd bet. Probably on Xbox2.

dzjepp wrote:*cums*tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games. The animated movie graphics are not cutting edge. This was done intentionally on the part of the animators. They wanted a certain look from the movies (or so I've heard).

meh

Actually, Epic is excellent at marketing their engine. The Unreal Engine has had just as much mass appeal in the game community as any engine I can think of and then some. Hot.

rep wrote:Actually, Epic is excellent at marketing their engine. The Unreal Engine has had just as much mass appeal in the game community as any engine I can think of and then some.Hot. Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's.

Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun. You act like UT and UT2003/2004 weren't fun. I had a fucking blast in those games.

rep wrote:Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun. Speaking we are talking about engines and their appeal, yes.

It's no concern of ours what their code is like. If it works, it works. If you can make it work better, then you'd obviously be working for them or a better company.

Just looks like a high poly tree to me

rep wrote:It's no concern of ours what their code is like. If it works, it works.If you can make it work better, then you'd obviously be working for them or a better company. inolen probably could do it better...

YAY BLOOMS!

looks like photographs.

Kracus wrote:I'd prefer less emphasis on graphics and more on morphable enviroments. Or in other words I'd rather see a less graphical world that deforms realisticly to things happening around.

o'dium wrote:YAY BLOOMS! hAROLD Blooms? St Patrick's day?

hm... from a distance the trees look all fine. but when you get close you realize that there is something wrong with the bumpmapping. they shoul add an additional shader to prevent the shiny effect afterwards.

it's no quake 4

inolen wrote:Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's. You must realise that rep's approach to things in life is an air of overconfidence combined with a large amount of half correct knowledge of things that he attempts to use to impress people.

cums

tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.

dzjepp wrote:
2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.
Robots (the movie) > The Incredibles

Kracus wrote:
You know I'd rather see a tree that you can shoot one of those UT spiny razory disk thingy's through the tree and see it fall than seeing a tree that looks almost real that can't be moved.

amen. this is a reason that i loved Red Faction. blowing up stuff was so much fun.

reefsurfer wrote:

sooo...whats the game about? Lumberjacks?

Keep in mind, that isn't a game at all. It's just a demonstration of their engine in its current state, not something to be played. In other words, it's like Doom 3.

You'll see in-game shots in a few months, I'd bet. Probably on Xbox2.

dzjepp wrote:
cums

tnf: 2 more years, till you get your the incredibles like graphics in games.

The animated movie graphics are not cutting edge. This was done intentionally on the part of the animators. They wanted a certain look from the movies (or so I've heard).

Actually, Epic is excellent at marketing their engine. The Unreal Engine has had just as much mass appeal in the game community as any engine I can think of and then some.

Hot.

rep wrote:
Actually, Epic is excellent at marketing their engine. The Unreal Engine has had just as much mass appeal in the game community as any engine I can think of and then some.

Hot.

Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's.

Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun.

You act like UT and UT2003/2004 weren't fun. I had a fucking blast in those games.

rep wrote:
Does that really matter? CryEngine is a total mess, but the games are still fun.

Speaking we are talking about engines and their appeal, yes.

It's no concern of ours what their code is like. If it works, it works.

If you can make it work better, then you'd obviously be working for them or a better company.

rep wrote:
It's no concern of ours what their code is like. If it works, it works.

If you can make it work better, then you'd obviously be working for them or a better company.

inolen probably could do it better...

Kracus wrote:
I'd prefer less emphasis on graphics and more on morphable enviroments. Or in other words I'd rather see a less graphical world that deforms realisticly to things happening around.

o'dium wrote:
YAY BLOOMS!

hAROLD Blooms? St Patrick's day?

inolen wrote:
Have you ever seen any of Epic's code? It's almost as sloppy as Valve's.

You must realise that rep's approach to things in life is an air of overconfidence combined with a large amount of half correct knowledge of things that he attempts to use to impress people.