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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 06:27 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Not sure if Snowden is serious, or trolling...




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Canadian Shaft
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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 07:11 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 07:13 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


:olo:



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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 07:27 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


hahaha what the fuck




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Just another Earthling
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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 09:22 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Oh, that Snowden :smirk:
Clicky



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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 10:05 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol, that gif is awesome. And relevant, considering it just happened. 10/10




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-28-2014 10:08 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Snowden claims an intelligence agency can turn our phones on when we have them off. lol or duh?




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 09:25 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


of course they can. and webcams, probably

basically, assume anything at your end capable of transmitting information, which is plugged into a network and powered (i.e. is plugged in or has a battery in it), can be used to eavesdrop on you




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 09:27 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I don't doubt that. But I don't understand how a phone that is completely powered down can be powered up remotely. Can anyone explain how this can be done?




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 10:32 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Nothing is completely powered down....thats my guess. I mean even when u have your phone off, the led lights up when u are charging it right?. There is active circuitry there. Think about that for a second. Plus ghe power on off button is a soft button...it doesn't mechanically openn or closes any circuitry... it just gives the electronic command




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 10:53 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Sure, when I plug my iPhone in, it shows a charging icon on the screen. But when it's not plugged in, there's nothing.

Nothing is completely powered down? So whose idea is that? Apple? Samsung? Why would they want to keep your phone "accessible" by not having a complete shutdown? Or is that an engineering problem that has no fix?




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 11:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Moron...




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 11:36 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Sure, when I plug my iPhone in, it shows a charging icon on the screen. But when it's not plugged in, there's nothing.

Nothing is completely powered down? So whose idea is that? Apple? Samsung? Why would they want to keep your phone "accessible" by not having a complete shutdown? Or is that an engineering problem that has no fix?


You think they made it so you can't remove batteries from iPhones just for style? hMMmmMMmm?




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Just another Earthling
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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 03:33 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Snowden claims an intelligence agency can turn our phones on when we have them off. lol or duh?


Was it here? Years ago probably. There was a link, when clicked it opened the cd/dvd drawer (remotely) and in my PC :paranoid:
Scary then and probably now.



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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 04:42 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Sure, when I plug my iPhone in, it shows a charging icon on the screen. But when it's not plugged in, there's nothing.

Nothing is completely powered down? So whose idea is that? Apple? Samsung? Why would they want to keep your phone "accessible" by not having a complete shutdown? Or is that an engineering problem that has no fix?


Not necessarily an engineering problem (if it was deemed as a problem they would have solved it), as much as it might be an inherent feature of the way modern devices operate. And no, I highly doubt it was made into a spying machine by design... but it coincidentally may be allowing such back doors to exist.




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 05:23 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


scared? wrote:
Moron...


For once I agree with you!




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 07:49 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Even without a battery in the unit, capacitors hold enough charge to power on a transceiver and send small bursts of data. Only way to be safe is to wrap it up in tinfoil so that it can't send a signal.



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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 07:52 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Got it, thanks...




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PostPosted: 05-29-2014 07:52 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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