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PostPosted: 08-24-2012 05:09 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Insensatez wrote:
Eraser wrote:
What I think Insensatez was trying to say is that thinking humans could travel to Europa is more arrogant than thinking humans could colonize Mars.


correct!

I was following the conversation, interesting topic and a huge experimemt for science. Great pictures were posted of what the rover saw, they have managed to make the rover take a 120 degree turn, which scientist were all exited about.

My points are:

1) Big projects like sending a rover across the solar system to a designated location with several measurement instruments cost alot of money. We humans, specifically the ones who govern nations) on the other hand are far more interested in taking care of our own shit (fighting wars over resources, land, some involving some genocide because we just don't like the other ones). We will keep spending dollars on things like this, until we run out of energy resources or ways to turn these resources into energy needed for our homes, commerce and industry.

2)If we do have substantial finances to support a project so we could land some humans on Mars and build a base there, and lets say we find a lifeform, even on mars, it's probably not going to happen because by the time we get there, there won't be enough resources left to get us there and the effects of global warming will be off the scale by then, so we would be back to step 1, solving our own shit

3) If it weren't be for the heavy pollution that started in the industrial age and the, again money based religious biggotery for building their own wealth and building more places of worship to convert more people to convince them that the way of the lord is the only way, instead of what (truth given, a minority of scientist and free thinkers) were saying over 200 years ago to invest in the future and not in the fairy tales of some books some blokes wrote 5000-ish to 1500-ish years ago, we would be alot further now, investing money in what is truely important, perhaps we already would have a base on Mars by now.

4) replying to GKY sub par reply reply to me that I think all living things need the sun as a form of battery for sustaining life, you do realise that there have been bacteria found Who live in craters of volcanoes , living in an environment where the main composition of found matter is sulfur

5) Same goes for Obsidian stating that wherever there's water, it's plausible that there may be some form of life (see 3)


I can appreciate some of what you're saying, and scratching my head at others, but I honestly don't care about human exploration at the moment. It's been more than obvious for a long time that any contact humanity might have with an extraterrestrial lifeform will be through a robot built by us on Earth. I don't care if we set up a base on Mars or any of that other depressing, dystopian future stuff you're talking about.

I'd simply be happy with the knowledge that it was out there. Send a probe that can map the fucker and determine once and for all if there's an ocean there, then if they find one send another probe that drills a hole and looks for 3 titted mermaids. I'd rather spend the money on that instead. I have no illusions about humanity's current ability to plant their foot on a planet in our solar system (let alone an extra-solar planet) being pretty dim. But you're thinking with current economics in mind. Perhaps economic systems will change in the future when we're focusing our work on actually fixing problems, instead of creating them? Maybe in a million years when humanity evolves into a more intelligent being that can actually accomplish it?

People need to get over the fact that alot of humanity's great achievements will not happen in their lifetime, so stop sounding so disappointed.

And before you smoke a bowl and ask, I say I'd be happy to guess that humanity will eventually visit Europa with boots on the ground, with mermaids selling bottles of that famous water obsidian was talking about.




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PostPosted: 08-24-2012 05:22 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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FUCK OFF


Why so harsh :?:


I think he's reeling (and rightly so) from the notion of a great moment being hijacked by conspiracy idiots. Especially so soon.




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PostPosted: 08-24-2012 10:14 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My humble apologies as no ill will was intended at all :!:

Forgive the ask 'cause, to me it was simply a rumour :smirk: that I was checking on and what better place for the truth but here :D

Me, well I'll be off the grid for a while and soon.

New carpet being laid through out our place (again needs a lot of packing up stuff & moving furniture so I will be busy) and then we are off OS :D :D shortly thereafter...

So bye bye for now ImageImage



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PostPosted: 08-24-2012 10:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


GONNAFISTYA wrote:

But you're thinking with current economics in mind. Perhaps economic systems will change in the future when we're focusing our work on actually fixing problems, instead of creating them? Maybe in a million years when humanity evolves into a more intelligent being that can actually accomplish it?

People need to get over the fact that alot of humanity's great achievements will not happen in their lifetime, so stop sounding so disappointed.

And before you smoke a bowl and ask, I say I'd be happy to guess that humanity will eventually visit Europa with boots on the ground, with mermaids selling bottles of that famous water obsidian was talking about.


I could have responded to all of your comments, but I took the ones that interest me most. (It's 8 am here , please keep that in mind, I just woke up and my mind is like a diesel engine, it needs time to warm up before it creates the most torque).

I don't think humanity will ever create a better economic system, In fact I think that there won't be another million years for humanity to evolve. (you can call this depressing, I'd like to think it's more realistic, given that history likes to repeat itself, as we keep making the same mistakes we did centuries ago). We will destroy life as we know it on planet Earth, except for a few single celled organisms maybe, humans will no longer be around. The process of evolution however will still be a concept of life as we know it and hopefully it skips humanity and selects a more intelligent capable form of life that can accomplish that what you dream of.



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PostPosted: 08-24-2012 10:29 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


@GKY

And for the record I'm not depressed that I won't be around to experience all of humanity's achievements. My mother saw a man land on the moon, And I'm part of the generation that saw people land robots on Mars, making great progress in the process of mastering cold fusion, are almost there to proving that science as we know it now is being close to being proved to be a correct moddel and perhaps in the next 50 something years of my lifetime there will be more interesting things that fascinates us both and we will both smile that we saw these things happening.



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PostPosted: 08-24-2012 10:40 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Insensatez wrote:


....... my mind is like a diesel engine, it needs time to warm up before it creates the most torque....


:arrow: Insensatez
We haven't interacted much but this challenged my perception of you :up: I will read more but I'll be busy for 3 or 4 weeks Image



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PostPosted: 08-25-2012 01:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
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....... my mind is like a diesel engine, it needs time to warm up before it creates the most torque....


:arrow: Insensatez
We haven't interacted much but this challenged my perception of you :up: I will read more but I'll be busy for 3 or 4 weeks Image


We will catch up ;) , don't let some of the retards here even make you apologise for asking a question, especially if they look like/are Doombrain, who is obviously not on top of any topic he has an opinion on, cannot admit his own mistakes, and is suffering from a severe case of Down Syndrome. I think his wife/nurse thinks for him.



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PostPosted: 08-25-2012 01:56 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Whiskey 7 wrote:

Why so harsh :?:


I think he's reeling (and rightly so) from the notion of a great moment being hijacked by conspiracy idiots. Especially so soon.


Yes, Unidentified Flying Object, it must be a conspiracy theory, we have clearly sighted some aliens.



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I take it you're pills also give you a massive boner for Mazda and myself?




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PostPosted: 08-25-2012 02:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Doombrain wrote:
I take it you're pills also give you a massive boner for Mazda and myself?


*[b]your[b]

actually one of the pills I take notes there may be a possibility of penile disfunctionality, erection problems etc..., but porn proved that I'm not in the category of those with said side effect.

And yes , and I'm also working on my relationship with GKY.



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Insensatez wrote:
Doombrain wrote:
I take it you're pills also give you a massive boner for Mazda and myself?


*your

actually one of the pills I take notes there may be a possibility of penile disfunctionality, erection problems etc..., but porn proved that I'm not in the category of those with said side effect.

And yes , and I'm also working on my relationship with GKY.



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It's swiftkey 3 ffs.




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PostPosted: 08-25-2012 02:18 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


GONNAFISTYA wrote:
And before you smoke a bowl and ask, I say I'd be happy to guess that humanity will eventually visit Europa with boots on the ground, with mermaids selling bottles of that famous water obsidian was talking about.


or Titan...




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seremtan wrote:
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
And before you smoke a bowl and ask, I say I'd be happy to guess that humanity will eventually visit Europa with boots on the ground, with mermaids selling bottles of that famous water obsidian was talking about.


or Titan...



No need for me to smoke a bowl for me to :olo: at this



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PostPosted: 08-26-2012 06:58 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


awesome




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PostPosted: 08-26-2012 11:11 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


good effort :up:




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PostPosted: 08-27-2012 04:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
http://youtu.be/fJgeoHBQpFQ?hd=1


Saw this the other day, very cool. Seems hard to believe that the craft started its descent at 13,000km/h (IIRC) from this footage!




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seremtan wrote:
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
And before you smoke a bowl and ask, I say I'd be happy to guess that humanity will eventually visit Europa with boots on the ground, with mermaids selling bottles of that famous water obsidian was talking about.


or Titan...


lol tossin Ewoks and lighting an entire atmosphere of fart will be the future of luxury travel.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2012 02:10 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


best picture by curiosity so far:

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PostPosted: 08-28-2012 02:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


and here is a picture for some perspective.

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PostPosted: 08-28-2012 09:06 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


:up:

looks like it has quite a hike ahead of it




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Tsakali wrote:
best picture by curiosity so far:

Image


:up:



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PostPosted: 08-31-2012 01:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the latest full HD panoramic view :ducky:

http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/curiosity- ... r-360.html

it's a mind blowing shot of another planet. Really gives you a sense of being there. I know that phrase gets thrown around a lot, but you'll see what I mean when you load it..make sure to zoom in , that should give you a pretty good perspective. That endless stretch of mountains in the horizon look really stunning!

You can even see some type of clouds. picture is pure WIN :up:




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PostPosted: 08-31-2012 05:39 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Looks more like dust...




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PostPosted: 08-31-2012 05:40 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


fuck u.... any questions?




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PostPosted: 08-31-2012 06:10 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah...can u tell ur grandpa to stop calling me?...




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Tsakali wrote:
http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/curiosity-first-color-360.html

You can even see some type of clouds. picture is pure WIN :up:


cool shizzle, though the guy said he photoshopped in some extra sky so the 'clouds' might be bs




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PostPosted: 08-31-2012 10:08 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


he did? what a homo move. why the fuck....

-NASA uber calibrates camera to give the most honest representation of how it would look to the naked eye, and writes an entire article about it
-Some moron photoshops in earth sky :dork:




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They tweaked the colors to make it look like what it would like like if seen on Earth, too. Kinda retarded IMO. I want to see what it would look like if I was standing on Mars.



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PostPosted: 09-01-2012 05:45 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


well, that's disappointing and utterly retarded.




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PostPosted: 09-01-2012 06:00 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Lol NASA...this looks like evidence that there may not even be a rover there after all...




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PostPosted: 09-01-2012 07:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


^ because of course NASA would outsource their fakery to 'some guy on the internet', and not care if he told everyone

IT'S SO OBVIOUS




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Transient wrote:
They tweaked the colors to make it look like what it would like like if seen on Earth, too. Kinda retarded IMO. I want to see what it would look like if I was standing on Mars.


My guess is the tweaking was fairly minor and probably had to do with the thinner atmosphere changing the way the sun lights the area. Agreed though, a raw photo > *.




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I wouldn't mind it so much if there was a raw version available as well. Granted, the guy didn't have to do the panorama in the first place, but if you're going to put that much effort into it, spend another 5 minutes going one step further.



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