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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 07:44 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 09:01 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm gonna get the 20 ft boards for plates cuz I won't have to cut near as much. The ceiling height requires no cuts to studs with single top and bottom plates...

Now I can use top of existing Sheetrock ceiling to line up cross braces...all too easy...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 09:05 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Also there's an electrical box where hot tub was connected. I can just use those wires for outlet? It's 120...

Don't know anything about electricity so I could die...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 09:06 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 09:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The hot tub could have been plugged into 120. But one of that size is usually 240. What type of outlet is on the wall? If you can tell me how many wires are in the box and what color they are I could possibly tell you what the voltage is and if you could use what is there for standard 120 volt receptacles.




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 09:27 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It was 120 dumbo...actually that tub was either or but was set up 120...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 09:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Btw three larger black wires and a green ground...




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The (3) Black Wires should have phase tape on them (Red/Blue/white). If they were not taped it's hard to say for sure what is there. Though judging by the number of conductors you could have 240 volt capable wiring there. (1) Black is a circuit, (1) black is another circuit, (1) black is a neutral and the green is the ground. If that is the case you could use the wiring for (2) 120 volt circuits. Try checking your break panel for the same wires and see how they are terminated.




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:05 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the one chance gramps gets to shine, and it's explaining DIY to a texan house husband...lol...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:07 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Take notes old man, I'm only doing this once.




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:14 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's 120 jack ass...is the gcfi confusing u?...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:24 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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So about the railing...I'm thinking leaving corner posts and cutting of inch and half at the bottom to fit on top of plate and have them going neatly into new wall...good idea?...of course it is...




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scared? wrote:
It's 120 jack ass...is the gcfi confusing u?...


Four wires (3) Blacks and (1) Ground doesn't equal GFCI. But you did say you nothing about electrical and you seem eager to prove it. For your children's sake I hope you don't burn the house down. GLHF.




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:41 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


im saying the paper work/receipt for hot tub said 120...the guy who bought it who is a builder also said it...u sure u know what the fuck ur talking about?...




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scared? wrote:
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So about the railing...I'm thinking leaving corner posts and cutting of inch and half at the bottom to fit on top of plate and have them going neatly into new wall...good idea?...of course it is...


I can't picture exactly what you're planning to do by the description. But it sounds like you want to build the wall around the railing. I'm curious as to how that's going to work with all the other wall studs.




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scared? wrote:
im saying the paper work/receipt for hot tub said 120...the guy who bought it who is a builder also said it...u sure u know what the fuck ur talking about?...


The tub could have been 120/240. The wall outlet could have been wired for 120. However, you have too many wire at the outlet to completely rule out 240 volts. Since the wires are also not identified correctly that only poses more possible problems. That's why I said you should go to the panel and see if you can identify how the wire are terminated.




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:50 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


240 can only use heavier gauge wire here

r the wire thicker than regular?



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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the outlet was specifically added for the hot tub which was set up 120...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:52 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


perfect no probs then



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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:53 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


no i am cutting rail that is parallel to new wall. im gonna leave corner posts but cut 1-2" of so i can slide bottom plate under and then attach post to top of plate...got it?...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:55 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


actually the wires are pretty thick...how would i determine if its 120 or 240?...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:56 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


use a meter?



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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 10:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


if ur uncomfortable , just use an inulated plyer and put a marette on any exposed wire to aviod kid troble and let someone electrical check it out

where rubber boots and dont touch the rail or anything or the plyer metal iether heh



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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 11:02 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


scared? wrote:
actually the wires are pretty thick...how would i determine if its 120 or 240?...


Take a picture and post it on an internet forum?




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 11:12 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i'm not familiar with US regulations for electrical stuff, but it must be a #10 wire for 30amps



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lol this pict needs some hick with 3 good teeth in a straw hat widdlin' a turnip...or sumthin'




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no hick has ever been close to palm, pear and peach tree at the same time so no u...




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 01:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


looks 240 to me :shrug:

keep in mind i am not an electrician...

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scared? wrote:
actually the wires are pretty thick...how would i determine if its 120 or 240?...

lick it - 240 will make your tongue tingle. if the outlet is too close to the ground and you don't want to have to kneel down, get one of the kids to do it.




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PostPosted: 12-06-2012 01:43 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


240 for sure, but hell that's alot of wire, texas lol



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