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PostPosted: 01-02-2017 02:03 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Give it a try. You might not get so easily upset. :olo:
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PostPosted: 01-02-2017 02:14 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Thats not a robot.. its an exoskeleton with onboard interface...



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A control device can be programmable, semi-autonomous machines or RC cars require control devices, even your TV for user input, pretty much everything electronic really. Even completely autonomous machines require a control device for output to tell the wheels or whatever to move, doesn't mean it's user controlled. Nowhere in that article does it say that a robot can be non autonomous, I believe. It requires some degree of autonomy - actions that are undertaken automatically.

Otherwise it would say remote controlled or... user controlled, or someshit.


Wasn't selective quoting but thought it was evident.

Again, autonomous robots are a subset of robots . The term "robot" does not necessitate autonomy.


I used the source you used to show how a robot requires autonomy then you quoted the same source to prove otherwise, only your interpretation of it was wrong and now you're going back to repeating what you initially said without providing anything else ?

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In this case, what makes the mech a robot is its humanoid appearance and movement. The fact that it requires a human "driver" does not exclude it from being a robot.


This wasn't really the point we were arguing. We were arguing specifically about wether a robot requires autonomy, it's a bit of a side step, but I guess it's related and the definition is a bit wooly so I had to go the learners dictionary for Merriam-Webster to hopefully expand upon it -

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a real or imaginary machine that is controlled by a computer and is often made to look like a human or animal


http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/robot

Oxford dictionary says the same, which is the daddy

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A machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, especially one programmable by a computer

1.1 (especially in science fiction) a machine resembling a human being and able to replicate certain human movements and functions automatically:


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/robot



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I've looked the word up in 4 different places and each one is slightly different in their handling of autonomy when defining a robot. Hell, the M-W link I found didn't mention autonomy at all in the first definition, yet yours did. I've always understood a robot to be a catch-all term used to describe many different types of machines. Some robots are autonomous. Some robots are not. That's all I'm trying to say.



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PostPosted: 01-03-2017 01:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


this thread makes me wonder if some time in the future there'll be a robo-symposium at which Robocrates and Robostotle will debate 'what it means to be robot'

*cue photoshop of Raphael's School of Athens but with robots*
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Interesting thought, maybe so!

To get back to the subject at hand, this thread makes me wonder if i can invent some kind of mechanized unit that can give high fives and chug beer so i can call it a brobot.



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Or how about one that prevents nerds from arguing trivial shit on the internet called a grow-upbot?
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Ryoki wrote:
Interesting thought, maybe so!

To get back to the subject at hand, this thread makes me wonder if i can invent some kind of mechanized unit that can give high fives and chug beer so i can call it a brobot.


this thread also makes me wonder if can invent a mechanised unit that can represent density in physics equations so i can call it a rhobot
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YourGrandpa wrote:
Or how about one that prevents nerds from arguing trivial shit on the internet called a grow-upbot?

6/10
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PostPosted: 01-03-2017 06:01 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ryoki wrote:
What i learned from this thread is that i can invent a mechanized unit to row a boat and call it a rowbot :up:




<Lazy> Make the full size version and I will be your first customer :up: </Lazy>
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