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Quantum of Solace = 4/10 - A relatively interesting story but ruined by what is quite possibly one of the worst editing jobs I've ever seen.

This "re-imagining" of the Bond francishe also loses points because James Bond has now become a character I don't see as a hero and is every bit as insane and bloodthirsty as the bad guys he's trying to stop. And this sub-plot of M not trusting Bond has gone on for so long (since before Craig played Bond) I'm convinced the writers have run out of ideas between the two characters.

Fuck the new Bond. Fuck him in his self-righteous ass.
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Yeah from what I've heard, he's just playing a hard-boiled killer, not Bond. It was good in Casino Royale, but it's pretty crap here. About the only thing positive is that at least Craig is better than Brosnan in every way possible, especially his tailoring.



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Craig is better looking but I think that's another place they went wrong with this "new" Bond....focusing on Craig's physique rather than creating a likeable character.

Sean Connery is a large, imposing man and although he was 6' 5" the older Bond movies never played to that with lower camera angles and "glistening" skin shots.

These new Bond films are catering more to the female/fag audience instead of the intelligent audience they were meant for. Pierce Bronsan's Bond era made the series dumb and they wanted to get away from that...they failed.
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Bond films intelligent?

Are you serious??

LOL
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[rec] 7/10

Decent zombie flick, but manages to hit upon too many cliches in it's genre, which i found kinda killed the tension.


What cliches? I'm curious because I found the movie to be rather categorically non-cliched.
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Goldeneye was all sorts of awesome. Fact.

I think most people are missing the point with the new bond film. He had just been given his 00 status in the last film. He was as green as they come really. He fell for a bird who he loved and then she got killed. Quantum of Solace starts straight after that, it is a follow on. He has all the rage and anger of a man who lost the woman he loves. He is bitter and twisted in everyway you can imagine and the people who killed his love are going to pay the ultimate price. This is a revenge movie and he lays down the hot dicks left, right and centre. He obviously has not got his "Bond skin" on yet so is still suseptable to his own emotions.

Films makes perfect sense and is a worthy sequel to Casino Royale
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Pauly wrote:
Bond films intelligent?

Are you serious??

LOL


Compared to the usual claptrap of action films, yes.

Admittedly, it's hard to swallow my argument when the villain is wearing a huge, see-through salad bowl on his head as he turns dials on a tape recorder convincing himself that it's a history-eraser-button/doomsday device....but yeah.

The old Bond had a license to kill but used it only when he needed to. He was a spy first and an assassin second. This new Bond...killing is his only job. FFS....even the action sequences have devolved into one-second-per-shot editing jizz bombs designed not to showcase elaborate action sequences, but simply to assault the audience's senses with flash and shaky cameras to convince audiences it's "action".

Goldeneye was the last good Bond flick. :up:
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What cliches? I'm curious because I found the movie to be rather categorically non-cliched.


Small things mostly... like someone trying to calm down the zombie child and suddenly getting bitten, the clash of groupthink when they're ordered to listen to the cop, the half assed escape plan they come up which is basically 'run through the building and get picked off one by one' instead of doing something that would have made more sense - and i guess the way certain things were filmed. We've seen things like that in too many zombie movies already... move beyond it i say. And personally i cannot stand it when a zombie film attempts to explain the zombification process.

Don't get me wrong though, i liked it. I like most zombie films, and this one was pretty good overall :)



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Jackal wrote:
What cliches? I'm curious because I found the movie to be rather categorically non-cliched.


Small things mostly... like someone trying to calm down the zombie child and suddenly getting bitten, the clash of groupthink when they're ordered to listen to the cop, the half assed escape plan they come up which is basically 'run through the building and get picked off one by one' instead of doing something that would have made more sense - and i guess the way certain things were filmed. We've seen things like that in too many zombie movies already... move beyond it i say. And personally i cannot stand it when a zombie film attempts to explain the zombification process.

Don't get me wrong though, i liked it. I like most zombie films, and this one was pretty good overall :)


I didn't think the little girl bit anyone. Didn't she just puke on her mom and run upstairs? Also, I don't know what else they could've done for an escape plan. I thought the idea of "get to a safe place and wait" was their best option. They knew the apartment upstairs was "unoccupied" so that was their best bet.
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Yeah but they ended up there accidentally, they were initially searching for the keys to the sewers and a way out, through the cops... which made no sense. I would have appreciated a 'get to a safe place and wait' plan, but there was none of that. The kid bit that one dude that was trying to inject her with something.

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I'd be interested in hearing how the US remake of [REC], Quarantine, compares.
Anyone seen it yet?
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Quarantine is definitely more polished in terms of production but [rec] had more edge to it.
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I'd be interested in hearing how the US remake of [REC], Quarantine, compares.
Anyone seen it yet?

christ, they've cranked that out fast enough. the original's barely on dvd.

demon 1 and demons 2, 9/10. great entertainment, shame the music seems to get even worse with age but i guess that's personal taste. if/when these get remade i hope someone with money and a shitload of extras does them justice.

max payne, 1/10. almost entirely missed the primary gimmick of the game and mark whatsisname is terrible.

postal, 2/10. uwe boll's masterpiece.
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Hellboy 2: 6/10. Generally enjoyable but like the first it hits a yawn patch at about the 1 hour mark where the momentum is lost...and then has to be rebuilt. Ending was a bit goof.



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GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Quarantine is definitely more polished in terms of production but [rec] had more edge to it.

the camera work was over the top, I really wanted to walk out b4 it was over,...I was this close to getting a headache
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Quarantine is definitely more polished in terms of production but [rec] had more edge to it.


I think you're wrong here. The presentation of the film is supposed to be raw and as such [Rec] was better. Quarantine was a good movie but considering how the film is meant to be delivered it felt way too over-produced. In [Rec] there were very few moments when you thought "why would he be filming this instead of running/defending himself?" whereas in Quarantine there were quite a few instances of that problem.

One thing I'll give Quarantine props for was some very quick but ballsy shots. The scene with the fireman limping out of the back room was quite creepy. Also (and I think this was the best part of Quarantine) when they're running upstairs at the end - when they run by the old lady who is just standing there - that was creepy as fuck.

All in all I found [rec] to have better acting and better atmosphere. Also the lead character in [rec] was far better than the girl in Quarantine. The American chick came off as whiney.
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I really enjoyed [rec].
I have seen a lot of zombie movies, but it still felt fresh and original to me.
But maybe a little bit of that freshness and originality can be ascribed to the fact that it was in Spanish, so it had a certain quirky 'euro' quality about it, plus I really dug the lead actress.

This is the first time I hear of an American remake, "Quarantine".
Guess I will watch that at some point, although I already feel averse toward it;
All this cowardly Hollywood regurgitation of proven concepts, whether it be movies or tv shows, is really off puting, and speaks volumes about the poverty of producers playing it safe, instead of being interested and investing in original ideas.
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I think it's hard to slight the makers of Quarantine in this case though. They wouldn't be wrong in assuming that movie-goers wouldn't go to see a foreign zombie movie. They were just trying to improve their odds by redoing things in a more "North American" way. At least they recognized that the original was a phenominal movie and wanted more people to see it (hence the fact that Quarantine is practically a shot for shot remake of [rec]).

What I do think is a shame however is that the remake precluded the original from being released over here.
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Well, I can understand how Quarantine being an exact remake of the orginal [rec] could work.
Because, for instance, the US version of Funny Games didn't lose much in translation; That was really well done. I felt the same bases were covered, and it had as much of an impact as the original.
However, why do American movie goers have such a problem with reading subtitles?
I realise this isn't preclusively an American thing; Ze Germans have built an entire industry around dubbing foreign movies, for instance, but that just doesn't make sense to me.
I'd much rather watch the original, and read subtitles, than lose details in an interpretation.
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I'm not sure it's the general audience, rather than Hollywood focus groups' idea of what audiences want to see.
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It's probably the same as in the music industry - as a publisher, why bother spending money on original songs when you might as well just record a cover or do a remix and let the sheeple buy the same thing twice? Or less cynically, just to open up a niche product to a mainstream target group?
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quantum of solace - 7/10

not a fan of bond movies, but i did enjoy the books and they're even closer to them with this than they were with casino royale.

only things that bugged me were the stupid title, the theme tune (which sounds like it was originally composed as a ringtone midi) and the idea that anyone would need to import an assassin to haiti.
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Wanted

minus zero out of ten
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I never even finished watching it, what an awful movie :down:

The Mist - 8/10
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[Rec]
6/10

not very scary at all, only the last 5 minutes maybe, and the first 60% of the movie was boring to me.



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Your opinion is wrong.
[rec] is at least 8/10.

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Yeah I guess so, horror movies don't do it for me anymore, they're all so rehashed.



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You're just blasé, mofo.
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Feedback, it must suck to have bad opinions.
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Indiana Jones and the Something of the whatever.

Finally got round to watching it. What a piece of shit. The action scenes are dreadful CGI bollocks and the whole thing just felt like it was filmed in a studio.

I think Spielberg may have finally lost his marbles.
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did you not watch AI?
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Firewall - 4/10

Silly and about half an hour too long. Also, Harrison Ford is getting a bit too old for doing action scenes.
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Jackal wrote:
Feedback, it must suck to have bad opinions.


It's hard to only enjoy the best things in life. :up: Though I did watch the movie naked spooning my gf so I might have been more impatient than otherwise.

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Tropic Thunder 8/10

Some absolutely hilarious scenes and an amazing Tom Cruise performance. Very, very funny :up:



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