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The Illuminated
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PostPosted: 07-22-2005 04:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


If you had 2K to spend on a new computer and you'd had you existing one for 5 or so years (iMac - slot loading 500mhz, 8mg Vid ram).

What would you get? Im thinking an eMac, but wonder if it will play q4 when it comes out.
speak up oh great Mac community



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Mr. Anderson!
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PostPosted: 07-22-2005 09:25 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


2k, and you pick Apple's second cheapest system? Then wonder if it will play a game not even out yet..




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The Illuminated
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PostPosted: 07-22-2005 09:34 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'd sit on the money until I saw what Apple brought out early(ish) next year. It's supposed to be the low end of the range stuff, iBooks & PowerBooks, that come first.

If you *need* a new computer, you'd be pretty safe with a top end Mac for the next few years. Forget the eMac and so on.

I've got a dual 2Ghz system which I expect will be good for three years more, though I will be getting an Intel based Mac as soon as they come out for "development reasons" :icon26:

I can confidently say that applications will be universal binaries for many years to come. I know I will be doing universal binaries for quite some time. Games will probably follow the same pattern.




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The Illuminated
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PostPosted: 07-22-2005 03:44 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


4g3nt_Smith wrote:
2k, and you pick Apple's second cheapest system? Then wonder if it will play a game not even out yet..


to teh point as usual I see. 2K Aus dollars woud get the bottom range iMac or the top of the range eMac, with change to upgrade teh ram, hd etc. The cheapest powermac starts at over 3k



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PostPosted: 07-22-2005 04:54 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Oh...Australian dollars....shoulda said that before! ;)

2K Aus is about $1500 US, so I'd go with either the eMac or the iMac. Both will have the same limitation of the Radeon 9600 card, however the iMac has 128MB VRAM as opposed to the 64MB on the eMac, and the iMac has double the system memory and hard drive space, a flat panel monitor as opposed to a smaller CRT, and a G5 at a higher clock speed. I'd personally go with the iMac at $1300 US (~1700 AUS) than the eMac if I had the money to blow on it.




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Mr. Anderson!
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PostPosted: 07-22-2005 05:08 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I have a 9600XT in the ole PC, and I have to say it runs most new games (aside from D3, which is just "bleh") at very respectable frame-rates and qualities for a old card.




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The Illuminated
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 08:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The iMacs are nice pieces of kit, IMO. Not "amazing" but nice to have around.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 09:36 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


S@M wrote:
If you had 2K to spend on a new computer and you'd had you existing one for 5 or so years (iMac - slot loading 500mhz, 8mg Vid ram).

What would you get? Im thinking an eMac, but wonder if it will play q4 when it comes out.
speak up oh great Mac community


factory ibook g4 and pocket $1000 bucks




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canis
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 10:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


He would have a worse machine than what he could buy, and he would pocket ~$500 Aus, not $1000.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 11:09 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Who is he? Are you talking to me in that post? :lol:

If you are, a better machine is subjective, and I'm not Australian so if I had $2000 to spend on an ibook I would pocket $1000




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canis
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 11:23 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


From the context of my post, "He" is S@M...




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 11:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Canis wrote:
From the context of my post, "He" is S@M...

Canis stop deleting my trolling you [bad word] :lol:




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 11:30 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Canis wrote:
From the context of my post, "He" is S@M...


Well what a better machine is is subjective, Canis. I was answering the question SOM asked me, and I'm not Australian.




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canis
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 12:09 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Faster, with more capacity and more CTO options means better for each computing platform preference unless portability is one's priority, and that doesnt seem be the case here based on S@M's initial choices.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 12:20 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Canis wrote:
Faster, with more capacity and more CTO options means better for each computing platform preference unless portability is one's priority, and that doesnt seem be the case here based on S@M's initial choices.


I don't give a fuck, I'm talking about what I want, not S@M :lol:




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canis
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 01:56 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You were answering S@M by directly quoting him and then providing a response, and were therefore offering a suggestion to him. Now you claim you're talking about yourself...you sound rather confused.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 02:16 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


*gets out popcorn*




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canis
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 04:04 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Survivor wrote:
*gets out popcorn*


Lol! :lol:




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Privates Investigator
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 08:45 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol.. bt you need to learn when to stop pushing back.

Oh and I wouldn't buy another computer until next July when the new Intel boxes come out, especially if you've had your current machine for 5 years.




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The Illuminated
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 08:52 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


$1599
iBook G4 - 1.2GHz PowerPC G4, 12-inch TFT Display, 512K L2 cache @ 1.2GHz, 1024x768 resolution, 256MB DDR266 SDRAM, 30GB Ultra ATA drive, Combo Drive, ATI Mobility Radeon 9200, 32MB DDR video memory, AirPort Extreme built-in

$1999
1.8Ghz - 512MB - 160GB - COMBO - 17-inch widescreen LCD, 1.8GHz PowerPC G5, 600MHz frontside bus, 512K L2 cache, 512MB DDR400 SDRAM, 160GB Serial ATA hard drive, Slot-load Combo Drive, ATI Radeon 9600, 128MB DDR video memory, 56K internal modem

I would go with an iMac given the comparison in specs, but might wait based on Daves suggestion. End of financial year is always a good time to pick up new computers :)



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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 09:01 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dave wrote:
lol.. bt you need to learn when to stop pushing back.

Oh and I wouldn't buy another computer until next July when the new Intel boxes come out, especially if you've had your current machine for 5 years.


I'd personally be skeptical of the new machines, and wait for Rev 2 machines to come out. Although I'm sure they will work, there will most likely be some problems with them.




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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 09:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Canis wrote:
Dave wrote:
lol.. bt you need to learn when to stop pushing back.

Oh and I wouldn't buy another computer until next July when the new Intel boxes come out, especially if you've had your current machine for 5 years.


I'd personally be skeptical of the new machines, and wait for Rev 2 machines to come out. Although I'm sure they will work, there will most likely be some problems with them.


Personally I'd rather have a broken, but warranty covered, Rev A than a soon-to-be-obsolete $1500 potential waste of money.




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canis
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PostPosted: 07-23-2005 10:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I dont know if they'll be obsolete, as they've got the dual-binary thing going. I think by the time the software stops supporting PPC, the first intel-macs will be out of date.




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PostPosted: 07-24-2005 01:44 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I hope they have student discounts.




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PostPosted: 07-28-2005 08:24 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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