That Uzbekistan massacre...
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bullshit. there would be no reason to blame if the U.S. were to act morallyCanidae wrote:Whether they got involved or stayed out of it you'd still blame them ,so whats the difference?HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:there will be a democratic revolution, no thanks to the U.S. a la Romania
just by their mere presence you say? wow those Yanks must be holy like angels. Do you know what the real footprint of the U.S.A. is in Uzbekistan is? Of course you don't because ultimately you don't care. You'd rather make ridiculous assumptions so you don't have to think or learn about it.Canidae wrote:Have you ever thought that just the presence of the US there may be the spark that is igniting freedom and a democracy movement there?
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here's something for your consideration ph
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ ... eid=123501
ISLAM KARIMOV, President of Uzbekistan, boils people alive. Why? For the same reason Saddam Hussein put his enemies in a shredder: because, at the time, he could.
When the West is your pal you are able, quite literally, to get away with murder. And what murder!
It is a surprise Karimov has time for governing at all, once he has spent the morning formulating new ways to poach, grill, tenderise, smoke and flambe his citizens to death. Boiling water, electrocution, chlorine-filled gas masks, drowning, rape, shooting, savage beatings, Karimov's Uzbekistan is the absolute market leader in torture right now.
The CIA would not shop anywhere else, which is why a mysterious Gulfstream 5 executive jet routinely delivers terrorist subjects from Afghanistan there for interrogation and, perhaps, percolation.
Craig Murray, the former British Ambassador, drew attention to this last year, and the noted socialist Tony Blair acted immediately. He sacked him. ...
... In 2002, the United States gave Uzbekistan $500m (€396m) in aid (as opposed to $36m (€28.5m) four years earlier) of which $120m (€95.1) went to the army and $79m (€62.5m) to the notorious SNB, Karimov's secret police. ...
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ ... eid=123501
ISLAM KARIMOV, President of Uzbekistan, boils people alive. Why? For the same reason Saddam Hussein put his enemies in a shredder: because, at the time, he could.
When the West is your pal you are able, quite literally, to get away with murder. And what murder!
It is a surprise Karimov has time for governing at all, once he has spent the morning formulating new ways to poach, grill, tenderise, smoke and flambe his citizens to death. Boiling water, electrocution, chlorine-filled gas masks, drowning, rape, shooting, savage beatings, Karimov's Uzbekistan is the absolute market leader in torture right now.
The CIA would not shop anywhere else, which is why a mysterious Gulfstream 5 executive jet routinely delivers terrorist subjects from Afghanistan there for interrogation and, perhaps, percolation.
Craig Murray, the former British Ambassador, drew attention to this last year, and the noted socialist Tony Blair acted immediately. He sacked him. ...
... In 2002, the United States gave Uzbekistan $500m (€396m) in aid (as opposed to $36m (€28.5m) four years earlier) of which $120m (€95.1) went to the army and $79m (€62.5m) to the notorious SNB, Karimov's secret police. ...