...Two individuals were playing Call of Duty and got into an argument online over a game with a $1.50 wager. One of them, a person with the Twitter handle @SWauTistic, threatened to swat user @7aLeNT. The latter then provided an address that wasn't actually their own in response to the threat. Shortly thereafter, @SWauTistic allegedly called in the false report, which led to a police response at the provided address. Andrew Finch, who lived at the address, reportedly went to the front door in response to the commotion and was shot...
not sure what's more fucked...the shithead who made the call (and has made many others before it) or the trigger happy seven-year department veteran spaz who shot 'em.
This was bound to happen. In fact, I'm surprised it hasn't already happened a few times by now. There are a lot of little shits playing multiplayer games who think it's funny to DOX or SWAT their opponents when they get butthurt. There needs to be an instruction manual to use the internet, or mandatory classes in school. Or something. It's fucking toxic.
Update: The Wichita Police department has confirmed this is an incident of SWATting, and released material including audio of the phone call that sent officers to Finch's door and video of what happened when officers arrived. According to the police, their investigation is ongoing, however they noted that the caller continued to contact 911 even after the police had arrived on the scene.
[quote="YourGrandpa"]I'm satisfied with voicing my opinion and moving on.[/quote]
All parties involved need to be punished to the full extent of the law, and for that punishment to be made public.
Not death penalty, but definitely all should be serving manslaughter terms.
People need to begin to realise that there can and will be real-world consequences to actions performed online.
Memphis wrote:good. what's the charge and penalty though?
technically, he didn't kill anyone. guess false reports to emergency services is it's own crime, but is there any further stipulation for any false report leading to the death of someone?
also, now arrest the twitchy chimpig with the snipper riffle.
The guy did a shitty thing no doubt, and he should get the highest legal conviction on the false call. But let's be clear about it... The shitty police actions are to blame for the actual death of an innocent civilian.
If all it takes to get someone killed is to call in with falsified information, there's clearly something fucked up in the system.
Especially since the rutine action will be to give that officer paid time off for it.
Memphis wrote:good. what's the charge and penalty though?
technically, he didn't kill anyone. guess false reports to emergency services is it's own crime, but is there any further stipulation for any false report leading to the death of someone?
also, now arrest the twitchy chimpig with the snipper riffle.
The guy did a shitty thing no doubt, and he should get the highest legal conviction on the false call. But let's be clear about it... The shitty police actions are to blame for the actual death of an innocent civilian.
If all it takes to get someone killed is to call in with falsified information, there's clearly something fucked up in the system.
Especially since the rutine action will be to give that officer paid time off for it.
Police in Kansas are poorly trained, and are trigger happy fucking psychos.
swatter should be charged with manslaughter and something needs to be done with under-trained trigger happy cops.
jfc how hard is it to hold people who have the power of life and death in their hands every day to a higher standard? Whoops his hand made some movements so you thought he should die, here is your paid vacation. Lets payoff this family with taxpayers money, how much was your son worth to you?
A simple phone call to the house would've cleared it all up.
I can't get my head around a father lost his life just for opening a door. Who are the people pulling the triggers, morons? I always wanted to visit the US but stories like this put it up there with Turkey.
Innit, swatter should suffer repercussions but you also need to consider how many other mistakes were made between a prank call and death. Someone other than the prankster fucked up in a much bigger way.
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The swatting call set the police up for an intense situation. They were expecting someone who had killed, was willing to kill more people, and not in the right of mind. The swatter was setting the guy up for a worse case scenario.
Wichita police on Friday released a recording of the 911 call in question. The voice of a man could be heard saying that his parents had been arguing. "I shot him in the head, and he's not breathing anymore," the voice said, referring to the father. The man then told the 911 operator that he was holding a handgun on his mother and little sister, had doused the house with gasoline and was thinking of torching it.
Riiiiiggggght... so the man raised his hands and pointed a weapon at the same time. It's one or the other, not both. Police were trigger happy and then lied about it.
"A 28-year-old male opened the front screen door and stood in the doorway or just outside that doorway," he said. "Officers gave him several verbal commands to put his hands up and walk toward them."
A police officer shot once after the man quickly raised his hands and appeared to point a weapon at the officers, Livingston said. Police found no one dead, injured or taken hostage inside the house, he said.
It's interesting to see all the arm chair officers with zero law enforcement training or experience pretend like they know what should/could have been done in situations they've never been in.
"A simple phone call to the house would've cleared it all up." And simply playing the winning lottery numbers will make you a millionaire.
YourGrandpa wrote:It's interesting to see all the arm chair officers with zero law enforcement training or experience pretend like they know what should/could have been done in situations they've never been in.
"A simple phone call to the house would've cleared it all up." And simply playing the winning lottery numbers will make you a millionaire.
Fucking LOL. There's so much wrong with your POV, but I shouldn't be shocked because you're an idiot.
A simple call to the house would have worked or even a loudhailer, but someone died for opening a door based on the call from someone with a form for bullshitting the services (where are the character checks?).
Soldiers in populated war zones aren't allowed to just fire at people without clear and present. Moving your hands up then down isn't, in any fucking first world, a sign of danger. They and get that through your thick fucking skull
On Reddit I saw a bunch of (american) motorcyclists exchange tips on what to do and what not to do when pulled over by a cop when riding your bike.
It's like they were discussing being assaulted by a mentally unstable serial murderer and were totally serious about it. It's so unreal to read that people consider cops a potential danger to your own life in case of a minor traffic related offense.
Funniest thing was how they were contradicting each other as well. "You need to get off the bike otherwise the cop won't come out of the car to prevent run offs". " Oh now! Never get off your bike! You'll be instantly shot for sure!" They would even suggest carrying your license and papers on the bike itself because reaching into the pocket of your jacket to retrieve them was a sure way of getting shot.
At least there were some European bikers on theere who were just as weirded out by it.
Seriously though, is it really that bad or is there a huge perception disjoint due to confirmation bias in what people consume on social media related to the subject. I mean, the only cop videos you see are cops being abusive or violent (the majority of the videos) or videos showing the opposite where the cop is usually heralded as "being different" and actually being a cool dude (implying that "good" cops are a rare thing)
Eraser wrote:
Funniest thing was how they were contradicting each other as well. "You need to get off the bike otherwise the cop won't come out of the car to prevent run offs". " Oh now! Never get off your bike! You'll be instantly shot for sure!" They would even suggest carrying your license and papers on the bike itself because reaching into the pocket of your jacket to retrieve them was a sure way of getting shot.
At least there were some European bikers on theere who were just as weirded out by it.
Reminded me of this vid, was this posted on here ?, I thought it was.
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YourGrandpa wrote:It's interesting to see all the arm chair officers with zero law enforcement training or experience pretend like they know what should/could have been done in situations they've never been in.
"A simple phone call to the house would've cleared it all up." And simply playing the winning lottery numbers will make you a millionaire.
There should have been a number of safeguards in place to protect the public, phoning could've just been one of them. You don't need to be in that situation to understand that an innocent person died at the hands of law enforcement due to incorrect safeguards or complete fuck uppery. You can't give mistakes like this a 'free pass' just because the majority of us have never been in the situation.
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Doombrain wrote:
Fucking LOL. There's so much wrong with your POV, but I shouldn't be shocked because you're an idiot.
A simple call to the house would have worked or even a loudhailer, but someone died for opening a door based on the call from someone with a form for bullshitting the services (where are the character checks?).
Soldiers in populated war zones aren't allowed to just fire at people without clear and present. Moving your hands up then down isn't, in any fucking first world, a sign of danger. They and get that through your thick fucking skull
Do tell a little 
