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Transient wrote:Just because everyone else does it doesn't make it safe. I mean seriously? That's some middle school logic on display right there. At 145kph, if someone ahead of you crashes or stops abruptly (or a deer jumps into the road), you will travel at least 25 meters before you can even start to brake. Then it takes another 125 meters to come to a full stop. Unless you're keeping a football field and a half between you and the driver ahead, you're taking a huge risk at that speed.

But by all means, risk your life. I'm sure the nurses and doctors will appreciate your cavalier attitude as they fix your degloved hand or leg. :up:
I can tell you don't have much driving experience, which is fine, but you're going by a number that looks fast to you on paper when in reality it's very common on expressways. We are talking low traffic on an expressway, daytime, in an area with no animal crossings, and good road conditions. Calm down dude.
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I'm just looking out for you, brother.
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Until the gravitational forces exerted on your body start sending danger warnings to your brain you're probably fine. Happens anytime I'm over 240.
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Transient wrote:I'm just looking out for you, brother.
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Scourge wrote:
Transient wrote: Just because everyone else does it doesn't make it safe. I mean seriously? That's some middle school logic on display right there. At 145kph, if someone ahead of you crashes or stops abruptly (or a deer jumps into the road), you will travel at least 25 meters before you can even start to brake. Then it takes another 125 meters to come to a full stop. Unless you're keeping a football field and a half between you and the driver ahead, you're taking a huge risk at that speed.

But by all means, risk your life. I'm sure the nurses and doctors will appreciate your cavalier attitude as they fix your degloved hand or leg. :up:
I don't know what bikes you've been riding, but I can stop mine at that speed in way less than 125 meters. 145kph/90 mph is not that fast. In congested traffic it would be foolish of course.
145kph is over 40m/s.
Since you take up to 2 seconds to respond to anything happening before you, you'll have covered about 80m before you even start braking. His 25 meters is a gross underestimation. The actual stopping distance, at a speed of roughly 130km/h is somewhere between around 80 to 90 meters. Sure, that's less than the 125m Transient mentioned, but we are talking about speeds 15km/h above that and the total stopping distance would actually be somewhere around 160 meters, which isn't that far off (and slightly above) the total distance Transient put out there (25 + 125).

In the grand scheme of things, on a highway with a 130km/h speed limit, with no or light traffic and good visibility, I don't feel 145km/h is taking excessive risk, however, it isn't something that should be considered normal, because when push comes to shove, 145km/h is awfully fast. Not because it's above the speed limit, but because in general, the speeds we move at in traffic are pretty damn fast to begin with.
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Lol... 2 second reaction time. Are you even conscious?
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You're severely underestimating how long this stuff takes. Read the article I linked or search a bit for other articles on driver reactiontime. 2 seconds isn't abnormally long.

The thing that throws you a curve ball here is the fact that if you do a reaction speed test, your brain is ready and primed to respond to something you know is coming, just not when. The amount of time you need to be alert like this is often mere seconds.

In traffic, you aren't primed like that, no matter how good or experienced a driver you are. It really takes significant time for your brain to process and realize that something happened that you need to respond to. It also takes significant time for your brain to instruct your foot to let go off the throttle and press the brake pedal (or your hand to let go of the throttle and pull the brake lever).

Undoubtedly you will disagree based on non-existent anecdotal evidence because you are Kracus, after all. Just know that you are wrong.
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I'm not sure you're even bothering.
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Doombrain is a champion at writing grammatically correct sentences which still have a habit of leaving the observer completely unsure of the semantics of it all.
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i thought this was the coronavirus thread, not-the-pointless-flexing-over-how-fast-you-can-ride-your-hog thread :dts:
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Eraser wrote:You're severely underestimating how long this stuff takes. Read the article I linked or search a bit for other articles on driver reactiontime. 2 seconds isn't abnormally long.

The thing that throws you a curve ball here is the fact that if you do a reaction speed test, your brain is ready and primed to respond to something you know is coming, just not when. The amount of time you need to be alert like this is often mere seconds.

In traffic, you aren't primed like that, no matter how good or experienced a driver you are. It really takes significant time for your brain to process and realize that something happened that you need to respond to. It also takes significant time for your brain to instruct your foot to let go off the throttle and press the brake pedal (or your hand to let go of the throttle and pull the brake lever).

Undoubtedly you will disagree based on non-existent anecdotal evidence because you are Kracus, after all. Just know that you are wrong.
I'm always ready unlike the koalas they must be getting their stats from.
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Reported cases

23 Apr 2,639,824

25 Apr 2,910,767

27 Apr 3,051,105

29 Apr 3,139,471

1 May 3,389,933

3 May 3,555,338

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MKJ wrote:
mrd wrote: Driving to work at 145km/h every day is fun :olo:
Im sure the hospitals will find this equally hilarious. It's not like they have anything else to do at the moment.
I drive the freeway to work, it is pretty straight for the most part, and there is almost nobody on the road at all right now. 145 would be the absolute top end speed I'd hit, it's not like I fly out of my driveway at 145km/h and drive that fast all the way to work :olo: Generally I cruise on the freeway around 100 to 120km/h if conditions are good :cool:
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Also I don't have wild turkeys or fuckin' deer roaming across my freeways, they are all fenced off. Anyway back to regularly scheduled program of corona viruses :dts:
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mrd wrote:Also I don't have wild turkeys or fuckin' deer roaming across my freeways, they are all fenced off. Anyway back to regularly scheduled program of corona viruses :dts:
Turkeys, deer and freeways :p and we have kangaroos...

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There was a slight lift in restrictions for this long weekend (Monday a Public Holiday celebrating ( :smirk: ) May Day) with misbehaviour by some so I wait to see the repercussions...

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Sounds like brazil don't give a fuck. There's estimates of 30% mortality rates in favelas.
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Bolsonaro is time and time again proving he's a complete dimwit and a moron.
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The modern fascist is not known for its intellect.
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CDC numbers of excess deaths suggest many unreported covid deaths lol?...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm
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Eraser wrote:
145kph is over 40m/s.
Since you take up to 2 seconds to respond to anything happening before you, you'll have covered about 80m before you even start braking. His 25 meters is a gross underestimation. The actual stopping distance, at a speed of roughly 130km/h is somewhere between around 80 to 90 meters. Sure, that's less than the 125m Transient mentioned, but we are talking about speeds 15km/h above that and the total stopping distance would actually be somewhere around 160 meters, which isn't that far off (and slightly above) the total distance Transient put out there (25 + 125).

In the grand scheme of things, on a highway with a 130km/h speed limit, with no or light traffic and good visibility, I don't feel 145km/h is taking excessive risk, however, it isn't something that should be considered normal, because when push comes to shove, 145km/h is awfully fast. Not because it's above the speed limit, but because in general, the speeds we move at in traffic are pretty damn fast to begin with.
If we're still talking bikes here, I'm going to disagree with that stopping distance. And I know you crotch rocket riders have better brakes than I do.

Also, the traffic is also moving at similar speed and will not come to a complete stop immediately even with a wreck. This will increase your needed stopping distance. I-20 here is a shit show in the afternoons. Even driving my work truck, I have no problems stopping in plenty of time at that speed to avoid collisions. Happens quite frequently with the slower traffic going said 130kph and most going 136-145kph.
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This new anecdotal "evidence" presented by Professor Scourge changes everything! Suddenly it's obvious to me that he's right and I'm not. Thank you for clearing this up once and for all, professor! My life will never be the same again!
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scared? wrote:CDC numbers of excess deaths suggest many unreported covid deaths lol?...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm
Oh rly, u think?

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Eraser wrote:This new anecdotal "evidence" presented by Professor Scourge changes everything! Suddenly it's obvious to me that he's right and I'm not. Thank you for clearing this up once and for all, professor! My life will never be the same again!
To be fair, your 'evidence' is from 14 years ago and has no mention of downshifting. My post wasn't 'evidence', just some things that should be fairly understandable if you think about it. The rest is what I myself have done and observed. Kinda hard to supply evidence for that. Calm down sir.
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seremtan wrote:i thought this was the coronavirus thread, not-the-pointless-flexing-over-how-fast-you-can-ride-your-hog thread :dts:
also, uk has passed italy for death count

at last we're number 1 at something :dts:
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Reported cases

23 Apr 2,639,824

25 Apr 2,910,767

27 Apr 3,051,105

29 Apr 3,139,471

1 May 3,389,933

3 May 3,555,338

5 May 3,711,460

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