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Canadian Shaft
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PostPosted: 06-29-2020 05:54 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
Don't count anything out. It was just as obvious in 2015 that Drumpf couldn't win as it is now. :paranoid:

I disagree. I figured out more than a year in advance that Trump would win. (see first post in this thread) Only chance he has is based on how much vote suppression he can achieve whcih will be quite a lot but still in this case it's not looking good for him.




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The Afflicted
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PostPosted: 06-29-2020 06:06 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


How is the ranking in the swing states right now?




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PostPosted: 06-29-2020 09:45 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
I disagree. I figured out more than a year in advance that Drumpf would win. (see first post in this thread) Only chance he has is based on how much vote suppression he can achieve whcih will be quite a lot but still in this case it's not looking good for him.

Well I hope you're right this time, too. :(




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PostPosted: 07-01-2020 12:18 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
vote suppression


It seems the only thing that still separates the US from the countries it usually wages war against is that they do not use their military against their own population :clownboat:




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Pext wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
vote suppression


It seems the only thing that still separates the US from the countries it usually wages war against is that they do not use their military against their own population :clownboat:

Yet



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Pext wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
vote suppression


It seems the only thing that still separates the US from the countries it usually wages war against is that they do not use their military against their own population :clownboat:


except all the times they did, like in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, and oh yeah Germany :clownboat: :dts:




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PostPosted: 07-02-2020 07:36 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


T-shirt found on Trump’s official 2020 campaign store merch.



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PostPosted: 07-02-2020 08:19 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


But a black guy is wearing it, so it's OK. :up:




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Etile
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PostPosted: 07-02-2020 10:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


also the bald eagle is America's national animal because that's still a thing




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PostPosted: 07-02-2020 09:51 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


obsidian wrote:
T-shirt found on Trump’s official 2020 campaign store merch.



The bald eagle was chosen June 20, 1782 as the emblem of the United States of America... RIF

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PostPosted: 07-02-2020 10:44 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm not sure what to think of the t-shirt. It feels a bit too much like jumping to conclusions due to tunnel vision, but I guess one could argue that the eagle on the t-shirt is stylistically closer to the nazi symbolism than the eagle used in the great seal of the US.




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PostPosted: 07-02-2020 11:40 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The eagle is facing the "wrong" way, and that's why it will cause upset. Flip it from how it is now and you just have the American seal. It could be a genuine oversight or it could be a planned oversight and a not so covert message to the deplorable core of people that make up Trumps base.




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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 09:25 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


They seem to "accidentally" use Nazi imagery on a recurring basis. Not so long ago Facebook had to take down a campaign ad for displaying an inverted red triangle, which was used in concentration camps.




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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 09:40 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah it's rather suspicious




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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 09:48 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I wouldn't put it past Drumpf for be that incompetent, but I also wouldn't put it past his campaign staff to use it as a subtle message to his core demographic.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 10:12 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


when they start doing (((this))) that's when you know they're getting less coy about revealing their power level




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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 11:42 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I also read something about a baseball you can buy from Trump, with TRUMP written on it. It's priced $88 and people are saying that's dogwhistle racism because (and I didn't know this) apparently the number 88 is used as a reference to "heil Hitler" in nazi circles (H being the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 -> HH -> Heil Hitler).




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Etile
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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 11:46 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


that seems a little overpriced for a baseball

a more suitable price would have been $14.88




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PostPosted: 07-03-2020 04:26 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
I also read something about a baseball you can buy from Drumpf, with DRUMPF written on it. It's priced $88 and people are saying that's dogwhistle racism because (and I didn't know this) apparently the number 88 is used as a reference to "heil Hitler" in nazi circles (H being the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 -> HH -> Heil Hitler).

That isn't even the first time he's used that number. He also placed 88 different ads on Facebook during one spending cycle. The very same cycle where the ad with the inverted triangle Nazi imagery was taken down. I know it looks like a coincidence, and it's easy to see where people are digging for the slightest reference to white supremacy just to confirm their bias. But given how often it happens, I think his campaign knows full well what they're doing. Any other rational person would scrounge through their media just to make sure there wasn't even the perception of impropriety. But not Drumpf. He leans into it because it plays well with his base.

Or we could all be wrong. :olo:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8895 ... -stock-art

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But the eagle’s image, which has stirred controversy because of its similarities to fascist iconography, isn’t a custom design for the Drumpf campaign. It’s a piece of stock art that anyone can license for $15 per use.




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 07-04-2020 05:37 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


To be honest, it sounds like someone in the campaign is throwing these 88s and other references into the mix. I doubt Trump is knowledgeable enough to even understand those references. But he has some very radical people working for him. The extremely (closeted) racists I’m sure are dying to work for him, so now he has people making these innuendos without Trump even being aware...




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PostPosted: 07-04-2020 10:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
That isn't even the first time he's used that number. He also placed 88 different ads on Facebook during one spending cycle.


how many ads did he place during other spending cycles? or on other platforms? do the far right count the ads to get the message or is it just leftie media?

it's actually pretty easy to 'find' meaning when you're looking for it. it's how conspiracy theorists operate




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PostPosted: 07-04-2020 12:00 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I know, I made that point in my last post. But it happens a lot. :tinfoil:




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PostPosted: 07-05-2020 12:09 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Don't know if I should laugh or cry




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PostPosted: 07-05-2020 12:42 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hahaha that's excellent




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PostPosted: 07-06-2020 07:41 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Is one side really so much better than the other?




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PostPosted: 07-06-2020 08:42 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hey, I voted in my primary. :arrow:




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PostPosted: 07-10-2020 04:38 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://www.vox.com/2020/7/10/21134609/ ... tion-trump

This doesn't come as a surprise, but it's still frustrating to see it play out. :miffed:




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PostPosted: 07-10-2020 10:17 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


YourGrandpa wrote:
Is one side really so much better than the other?


This guy goes off on a 7 minute "what if" tangent that holds no water whatsoever




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PostPosted: 07-11-2020 07:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Fucking Gramps has revealed himself as the dumbest person on the internet so many times it's just annoying at this point... Grow up moron...




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Dummies who choose to stick their heads in the sand get what they deserve. Enjoy dummies.




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Eraser wrote:
This guy goes off on a 7 minute "what if" tangent that holds no water whatsoever


"This guy" is infinitely more informed than you could ever hope to be. Your denial is only proof of ignorance and that is certainly blissful for the uninformed.




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YourGrandpa wrote:
Dummies who choose to stick their heads in the sand get what they deserve. Enjoy dummies.


lol, oh boy, the irony...




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PostPosted: 07-11-2020 03:07 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's funny how oblivious the self-righteous can be.




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The Afflicted
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PostPosted: 07-11-2020 11:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
I also read something about a baseball you can buy from Trump, with TRUMP written on it. It's priced $88 and people are saying that's dogwhistle racism because (and I didn't know this) apparently the number 88 is used as a reference to "heil Hitler" in nazi circles (H being the 8th letter of the alphabet. 88 -> HH -> Heil Hitler).


It has been and is used in German neo-nazi circles. 18 = AH. 88 = HH.

Also brands that German neo-nazis use as dog-whistles:
For a long time "Lonsdale" -> "nsda" -> NSDAP
Currently they are using/abusing "The North Face", "Thor Steinar", "Reconquista", "New Balance", "Fred Perry".




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PostPosted: 07-12-2020 07:28 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


YourGrandpa wrote:
Dummies who choose to stick their heads in the sand get what they deserve. Enjoy dummies.



Lol that's literally what ur doing... Idiot...




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