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seremtan wrote:
xer0s wrote:Again, a species far more advanced than ours could have the capability to communicate telepathically with whatever language they choose...
it's impossible to understand an unknown language without a Rosetta Stone* equivalent

* by which mean the actual historical Rosetta Stone not the thing weaboos use to learn basic Japanese so they can converse with their crusty pillow waifus
Again, you underestimate the ability of a vastly advanced species...
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xer0s wrote:Try to imagine a civilization that is a million years more advanced than ours. A million years. That’s not that long of a time in the grand scheme. The universe is so old and so big, there could easily be billions of civilizations that are millions of years older than ours. Imagine how advanced their technology is. They could have figured out how to traverse space and time, traveling fast distances. Which by the way, scientists have’t ruled out interstellar travel as impossible, because there is no law of physics that actually forbids it...
They harness the power of stars just to show up here and there in flying saucers and shit, fucking with people but never providing incontrovertible proof of their existence?
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xer0s sounds like a reli-nut, but instead of explaining everything away with "God works in mysterious ways" he goes "advanced civilization! Advanced civilization! Advanced civilization!"
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Well done!
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xer0s wrote:A species a million years older than ours ..................
xer0s wrote:Again, you underestimate the ability of a vastly advanced species...
I thought I had a pretty good imagination but I am having a real problem trying to grasp here :smirk:
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Any advanced civilisation that could actually travel the unimaginable distance to earth would only be here for one thing and that’s resource. They wouldn’t even say hello, we would be insignificant to them.
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xer0s wrote:
seremtan wrote:also, how are these aliens communicating with humans?
Apparently it’s telepathy...
Which isn’t actually a thing. Unless you know different?
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seremtan wrote:
which isn't real :alert:
Beat me to it. I should really read these first.
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Doombrain wrote:Any advanced civilisation that could actually travel the unimaginable distance to earth would only be here for one thing and that’s resource. They wouldn’t even say hello, we would be insignificant to them.
Their motivation to be here could be a number of things.

If it’s easy for them to get here, then resources wouldn’t have to be the primary reason. We would have no idea for their presence.

Just to be clear, if you read what I’ve said, I’ve never claimed there were aliens visiting us. I’m simply open to the idea. And the reason for that is exponential technological advancement. A civilization much older than ours may have the ability to do things we can’t even imagine. So it can’t be ruled out.

As Arthur C. Clarke wrote: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic...
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Doombrain wrote:
xer0s wrote:
Apparently it’s telepathy...
Which isn’t actually a thing. Unless you know different?
In a million years, you don’t think we will have the ability to communicate without speaking? Obviously I’m talking about technological advancements. The human body will never evolve to do this. But we are becoming more and more infused with technology every day. There won’t some day be a chip implanted in a our brain? I think it’s obvious there will be...
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I mean, if a civilization reaches a point where they can travel between galaxy's, or even within the galaxy it's safe to assume they've probably also mastered the ability to acquire resources without killing off entire fledgling civilizations. Beyond the fact that asteroids and moons, deserted planets likely have more than enough resources it's also entirely possible these aren't even necessary as they can probably just manipulate matter into what they need and probably use suns to provide themselves with power. I bet encountering new life is probably something they would actually want to happen so they can study it and learn about their own past.
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Κracus wrote:I mean, if a civilization reaches a point where they can travel between galaxy's, or even within the galaxy it's safe to assume they've probably also mastered the ability to acquire resources without killing off entire fledgling civilizations. Beyond the fact that asteroids and moons, deserted planets likely have more than enough resources it's also entirely possible these aren't even necessary as they can probably just manipulate matter into what they need and probably use suns to provide themselves with power. I bet encountering new life is probably something they would actually want to happen so they can study it and learn about their own past.
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xer0s wrote:
Doombrain wrote:
Which isn’t actually a thing. Unless you know different?
In a million years, you don’t think we will have the ability to communicate without speaking? Obviously I’m talking about technological advancements. The human body will never evolve to do this. But we are becoming more and more infused with technology every day. There won’t some day be a chip implanted in a our brain? I think it’s obvious there will be...
In a million years we’ll be gone at the rate we’re consuming.
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xer0s wrote:
Doombrain wrote:Any advanced civilisation that could actually travel the unimaginable distance to earth would only be here for one thing and that’s resource. They wouldn’t even say hello, we would be insignificant to them.
Their motivation to be here could be a number of things.

If it’s easy for them to get here, then resources wouldn’t have to be the primary reason. We would have no idea for their presence.

Just to be clear, if you read what I’ve said, I’ve never claimed there were aliens visiting us. I’m simply open to the idea. And the reason for that is exponential technological advancement. A civilization much older than ours may have the ability to do things we can’t even imagine. So it can’t be ruled out.

As Arthur C. Clarke wrote: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic...
I don’t buy it and to date the proof backs me up. However we’ve been a blip in time and I absolutely believe there’s other civilisations in our galaxy.

What I don’t believe is they would want to visit (if they could, which they can’t) given the way we fight and pollute. There’s also a solid theory no civilisation makes it to a star-fairing level thanks to random acts like supernova etc.

I think believing in aliens visiting us draws huge parallels with religion and our in ability to accept we come from nothing and return to nothing.
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Doombrain wrote:
xer0s wrote:
In a million years, you don’t think we will have the ability to communicate without speaking? Obviously I’m talking about technological advancements. The human body will never evolve to do this. But we are becoming more and more infused with technology every day. There won’t some day be a chip implanted in a our brain? I think it’s obvious there will be...
In a million years we’ll be gone at the rate we’re consuming.
Ok, but you’re kinda skirting the point. Assuming we are still alive and well and we haven’t killed ourselves, it’s probable that what I’m saying is possible...
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Doombrain wrote:
xer0s wrote:
Their motivation to be here could be a number of things.

If it’s easy for them to get here, then resources wouldn’t have to be the primary reason. We would have no idea for their presence.

Just to be clear, if you read what I’ve said, I’ve never claimed there were aliens visiting us. I’m simply open to the idea. And the reason for that is exponential technological advancement. A civilization much older than ours may have the ability to do things we can’t even imagine. So it can’t be ruled out.

As Arthur C. Clarke wrote: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic...
I don’t buy it and to date the proof backs me up. However we’ve been a blip in time and I absolutely believe there’s other civilisations in our galaxy.

What I don’t believe is they would want to visit (if they could, which they can’t) given the way we fight and pollute. There’s also a solid theory no civilisation makes it to a star-fairing level thanks to random acts like supernova etc.

I think believing in aliens visiting us draws huge parallels with religion and our in ability to accept we come from nothing and return to nothing.
You say they can’t visit us. What is the proof of this statement?

I’d say most civilizations fight and pollute when they are young. Evolution shapes us that way. What makes any other otherworldly civilization different? An advanced civilization would have gotten over that hump.

I completely disagree with your last statement. How does being open to the idea of aliens visiting us equal religion? If anything, it only enhances my belief that we come from nothing and return to nothing...
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Eh... although I believe aliens exist, whether intelligent or not it's not really his job to prove they haven't or can't visit us. This is like asking someone to prove god doesn't exist, it's just a ridiculous stance to take.
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What I mean is, what law of physics forbids them from visiting? What proof is there that says they can’t visit?
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That no one has seen them in none blurry pics should be enough proof.
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xer0s wrote:
You say they can’t visit us. What is the proof of this statement?

I’d say most civilizations fight and pollute when they are young. Evolution shapes us that way. What makes any other otherworldly civilization different? An advanced civilization would have gotten over that hump.

I completely disagree with your last statement. How does being open to the idea of aliens visiting us equal religion? If anything, it only enhances my belief that we come from nothing and return to nothing...
Your view is romantic, too much Star Trek. The dinosaurs lasted for 65m years and were still wiped out. We’re not going to make it to make it to your utopia.
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Doombrain wrote:That no one has seen them in none blurry pics should be enough proof.

Ummm I wouldn't say that either. Think about all the alien sightings that have happened, lets use Roswell for example. They say it's a weather balloon, there's no photos of that weather balloon crashed on the ground, kinda suspicious. One of the generals who was on site for the Roswell incident actually took pictures of the weather balloon a day later inside a house to show that it was just a weather balloon, but not on site.

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That same general recanted the weather balloon story on his deathbed by the way. He claimed they did actually find a craft if I recall correctly and that the weather balloon story was staged. Chances are good that there are actual photographs of whatever landed there and I doubt they're grainy. There's other government officials too that stated there's compelling photographic evidence but that it's currently being kept secret and not released to the general public. So it might not be that there isn't any good photos out there, just that they're being kept secret. Beyond that, there's also the tic tac radar images from the incident off the coast of California.
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Kinda funny...

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Doombrain wrote:Your view is romantic, too much Star Trek.
We can all be thirsty for hot alien chicks with huge blue tits, it's just not gonna happen. The Roswell shit was made up and maintained to this day to give the US military an aura of secrecy and hidden knowledge against the Soviet Union. An idi...person would have to be really dumb and naive to think concrete, infallible evidence of aliens exists but only in Area 51 rofl
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