iTunes question (Can't burn songs to CD)

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iTunes question (Can't burn songs to CD)

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For part of my sugar intake during my spectacular ride across country, I purchased at least one Pepsi a day, and made sure they were all iTunes winners by tilting the bottle and looking before I bought them.

I collected something like 45 in two bags that eventually were given to relatives along the way and mailed to my place. It all worked out great, and I downloaded iTunes and entered in all of the codes before yesterday. (The game ended on the 23rd.)

Now I've got five or six songs, and I want to play them in a real mp3 player, like Winamp or anything not lame. I'm in my playlist (Not recently purchased music, but in a playlist I created in iTunes) and I hit the burn disc button (With CD-RW in drive) because I want to convert the lame m4p files to mp3, but it's telling me:

None of the items in this playlist can be burnt to disc

How do I fix this?

I realize I have several paths to take, but I was wanting to ask someone who has already got a solution. I've read about a million and one applications that supposedly convert the m4p to mp3, and I've tried a lot but none worked. I really don't want to press play on the songs and hit record in another application just to get the song, because it'll always be better when it's from the original source. (Not a copy of a copy of a copy!)

Thanks in advance

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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

You moron. How is burning a file to an audio CD (Digital to analog) and then ripping it to mp3 (analog to digital) not going to result in quality loss like the recording method? That and iTunes owns anything your puny, miniscule mind could ever dream up.
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CDs aren't analog, mr. Smith.
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Re: iTunes question (Can't burn songs to CD)

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rep wrote:
I really don't want to press play on the songs and hit record in another application just to get the song, because it'll always be better when it's from the original source. (Not a copy of a copy of a copy!)
Its digital. A copy of a copy doesn't degrade the quality :icon6:

Are the files copyright protected by chance?
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Fuck you didn't die on the trip :tear:
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Re: iTunes question (Can't burn songs to CD)

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Tormentius wrote:
rep wrote:
I really don't want to press play on the songs and hit record in another application just to get the song, because it'll always be better when it's from the original source. (Not a copy of a copy of a copy!)
Its digital. A copy of a copy doesn't degrade the quality :icon6:

Are the files copyright protected by chance?
Every song from the iTunes Music Store is DRM'ed with Fairplay, which allows pretty much a limitless number of CD's to be burned.
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4g3nt_Smith wrote:You moron. How is burning a file to an audio CD (Digital to analog) and then ripping it to mp3 (analog to digital) not going to result in quality loss like the recording method? That and iTunes owns anything your puny, miniscule mind could ever dream up.
Because, moron, I'm not burning it to an analog audio tape, or recording it through my soundcard (making it analog) and then burning it to CD, I'm burning it to 'mp3 CD' as iTunes lets you do that. (Or at least it says you can do that.)

They're just standard 128/44 'm4p' files, which as far as I understand are DMR MP4 files.

iTunes is awful.

Want me to take a video of what happens, since you can't understand?
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Re: iTunes question (Can't burn songs to CD)

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4g3nt_Smith wrote: Every song from the iTunes Music Store is DRM'ed with Fairplay, which allows pretty much a limitless number of CD's to be burned.
:icon14: I wasn't aware. Thanks.

Edit: And quit flaming rep you lot. I know hes an easy target but I don't feel like having to edit posts (however funny they may be).

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rep wrote:
4g3nt_Smith wrote:You moron. How is burning a file to an audio CD (Digital to analog) and then ripping it to mp3 (analog to digital) not going to result in quality loss like the recording method? That and iTunes owns anything your puny, miniscule mind could ever dream up.
Because, moron, I'm not burning it to an analog audio tape, or recording it through my soundcard (making it analog) and then burning it to CD, I'm burning it to 'mp3 CD' as iTunes lets you do that. (Or at least it says you can do that.)

They're just standard 128/44 'm4p' files, which as far as I understand are DMR MP4 files.

iTunes is awful.

Want me to take a video of what happens, since you can't understand?
Wait a minute, you're trying to burn DRM'ed mp4 files to an mp3 CD... Think about that for a second...
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4g3nt_Smith wrote:You moron. How is burning a file to an audio CD (Digital to analog) and then ripping it to mp3 (analog to digital) not going to result in quality loss like the recording method? That and iTunes owns anything your puny, miniscule mind could ever dream up.
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4g3nt_Smith wrote:Wait a minute, you're trying to burn DRM'ed mp4 files to an mp3 CD... Think about that for a second...
I own them, so why can't I burn them? What's the use of this burn feature if it won't work? I've tried every option in this joke of a program.
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Obviously, as the hormonally challenged smith is alluding to, but failing to explain, you cannot burn DRM'd itunes music (which you don't own, you license for up to 5 autorized devices) because converting to mp3 would strip the drm and restrict Apple's right to control access to your license. It's not hard.

If you want the song that bad for cheap go to http://www.allofmp3.com and get it for 2 cents per MB in any format you want.

You can, however, burn them to an audio cd and rip the audio cd to mp3, losing quality in the process
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Dave wrote:Obviously, as the hormonally challenged smith is alluding to, but failing to explain, you cannot burn DRM'd itunes music (which you don't own, you license for up to 5 autorized devices) because converting to mp3 would strip the drm and restrict Apple's right to control access to your license. It's not hard.

If you want the song that bad for cheap go to http://www.allofmp3.com and get it for 2 cents per MB in any format you want.

You can, however, burn them to an audio cd and rip the audio cd to mp3, losing quality in the process
So I can put it on an iPod, but on nothing else?

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No, you can burn them as an audio CD, burn them as data, put them on an iPod, play them in IIRC 10 different computers, just not burn he mp4 files as an mp3 disc, AKA not use common sense.
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Keep It Real wrote:
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Moderated: Linking to methods of bypassing the licensing restrictions that are agreed to upon purchasing music from iTunes is a little too dicey to discuss here.

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inphlict wrote:Moderated: Linking to methods of bypassing the licensing restrictions that are agreed to upon purchasing music from iTunes is a little too dicey to discuss here.

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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
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4g3nt_Smith wrote:No, you can burn them as an audio CD, burn them as data, put them on an iPod, play them in IIRC 10 different computers, just not burn he mp4 files as an mp3 disc, AKA not use common sense.
You can only copy them to five different computers, and the audio CD it burnt was horrible. There was fuzz and pops all over the place. It wasn't the disc or the burner, because I burnt another CD right after that to check, and it was just fine (using Nero).

iTunes is a great music store (albeit with a limited selection if you're not into pop/top40), it advertises the features one would expect to find, it functions well enough as a bloated mp3 player, but when it comes to the basics of why digital audio is used, it's a complete failure.

Digital audio exists so you can take your music with you. I don't need to bring a 60GB iPod Photo to work just to have it stolen, or be told by some prick who isn't my boss the same thing we all got in elementary school, "No Gameboys in class!"

I did find some rare stuff on there, so I'm happy with that. I ended up doing the crappy thing, playing the songs through iTunes and recording using SoundForge. Since I had the recording set on 'what you hear' and everything else but wave muted, it should be just as good as straight digital...

However, you are the kids who told me that 320kbps is totally worth the file size lol. By the way, every iTunes song I came across was 128kbps.
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