Final cut and osx on intel chips

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:10 pm

i think it will be fine :eeh:

i always expected it

Post by **Eraser** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:17 pm

Apple won't switch to x86 chips. Believe me.

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:24 pm

alot of intel users think they want osx now

thier hardware, no doubt holds, back potencial users of osx

Post by **Eraser** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:30 pm

True, but I don't see it happening. They could port Tiger to x86 systems, but what about software? All Mac software would have to be ported to the x86 version of the OS while there are already good Win32 or *nix alternatives.

edit
there's a piece about it on Slashdot right now:
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?si ... 0&from=rss

Post by **saturn** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:33 pm

they're just stabilzed after moving over to OS X, a new switch would be too much for many users

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:35 pm

true, although thats never stopped them in the past.

steve will discuss the details later i guess

Post by **Doombrain** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:45 pm

Eraser wrote:Apple won't switch to x86 chips. Believe me.

you're wrong mate, sorry.

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:51 pm

They will go public with an announcement shortly.

Post by **shadd_.** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:58 pm

that would be an awesome move to have osx run on x86.

a full fledged alternative to windows would be great.

i know linux is good, but i don't think it can compare to the support of osx?

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:21 pm

atm it is said that apple comps make up 2% of comps.

you tink thier market share increse from 2% intel ready ?hehe

intel socks are nervous today

Post by **rgoer** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:31 pm

I find it much more likely that intel will become apple's contracted provider of ppc chips

apple's contract with ibm contains some very strict minimum requirements on deliverables, and it awards apple a lot of ppc intellectual property when ibm fails to meet their promised levels of performance... so now apple can take the ppc architecture to another chip manufacturer if apple should decide that they want to do so

intel knows good and well how to manufacture chip architectures beyond x86... they already manufacture multiple risc chips for various applications, adding ppc to the mix isn't beyond the realm of reason

Post by **Dave** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:33 pm

Intel would not make PPC chips.. They have their own reputation to uphold and building PPC chips isn't going to accomplish that

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:34 pm

hehe its a hold

Post by **rgoer** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:35 pm

a reputation of getting clobbered by amd? heh

seriously, though, I think that the apple market is separate enough that intel providing a separate chip for a separate market would not damage the pentium brand--things would remain apples/oranges etc etc

Post by **Dave** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:41 pm

If Intel started making PPC chips for Apple, what would that say about Intel's confidence in its own products? Not a lot...

Post by **rgoer** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:43 pm

it would say that different architectures suit different customers' needs, which is a fact

intel already produces non-pentium chips

the only thing hurting the pentium brand right now is how fucking awesome amd is

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:45 pm

Dave wrote:If Intel started making PPC chips for Apple, what would that say about Intel's confidence in its own products? Not a lot...

yea its a diff product ey

Post by **Dave** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:46 pm

Does intel produce non intel branded desktop/server cpus that aren't x86, Itanium or ARM?

It's like going to the Ford plant and picking up a Chevy.. sure Ford could make a Chevy, but they're not going to

Post by **shadd_.** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:47 pm

they also said that Apple was playing the AMD card at full force, so don't be too surprised if a green logo shows up on some models.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23714

yes it is the inquirer, sometimes they are full of shit, sometimes they are bang on.

Post by **Doombrain** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:47 pm

Apple are switching to intel.

Post by **rgoer** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:50 pm

no, that argument is flawed

in your comparison, ppc/x86 would not be ford/chevy... rather, apple/dell would be ford/chevy

and get this--getrag manufactures transmissions for both of them

Post by **rgoer** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:51 pm

yes doombrain it is true

what is still up in the air is if a switch to intel and a switch to x86 are the same thing

Post by **Dave** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:52 pm

rgoer wrote:no, that argument is flawed

in your comparison, ppc/x86 would not be ford/chevy... rather, apple/dell would be ford/chevy

and get this--getrag manufactures transmissions for both of them

oh piss off... I'm right, you're wrong

Post by **rgoer** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:53 pm

how's goagrrl

Post by **Dave** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:54 pm

What's that got to do with anything? :icon19: