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i hope you're trolling grandpa.Grandpa Stu wrote:are you serious puff? cuz i've actually recently gotten into scientology myself. have you taken any courses yet?
so far i fail to see any reason while scientology is bad and why some people like to bash on it so much. it has had an odd history i must admit though. just the subject and history of scientology is fascinating in itself.
Scientology is an incredibly dangerous organization. I spent about 6 months researching it intensively while trying to help counsel a couple kids out of it, who were born into it (their parents were part of sea org). Their lives are in total ruin, as is the family.
They probably sucked you in with their fancy posters and "personality" test.
Stay..
the fuck..
away.
Look for the may 1991 time magazine feature on it.
There are also quite a few documentaries and interview available online (probably at xenu.net)
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i think the travolta thing was a gay thing too.Ryoki wrote:I've always held the believe that the Scientology Church has some foul and incriminating dirt on it's most famous supporters - perhaps they got their hands on some sort of Tom Cruise gay porn video, or evidence of some serious Travolta drug abuse or something.
They do indeed keep records of these things. It's an insurance thing for them. They keep your deepest secrets on record, and then if you try to leave they threaten exposing them.
They get these secrets during a process of thetan exorcision, which is really psychological terrorism.
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The problems aren't with the philosophy (fuck, these days you can belive that Batman is god), the problems are with the large, criminial organization that runs it. They are pretty much the epitome of evil, destructive behaviour.Nightshade wrote:The sad thing is that it's really no different than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam in many respects.
(Sure, there might have been a few cult-like Christian churches in the past that were as evil as Scientology, but they didn't realize what Scientology discovered -- you can be as evil as you want, if you have lots of money and lots of lawyers).
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Shit, that's just creepy.“’Psychiatry’ and ‘psychiatrist’ are easily redefined to mean ‘an anti-social enemy of the people‘. This takes the kill crazy psychiatrist off the preferred list of professions...The redefinition of words is done by associating different emotions and symbols with the word than were intended...Scientologists are redefining ‘doctor‘, ‘Psychiatry’ and ‘psychology’ to mean ‘undesirable antisocial elements‘...The way to redefine a word is to get the new definition repeated as often as possible. Thus it is necessary to redefine medicine, psychiatry and psychology downward and define Dianetics and Scientology upwards. This, so far as words are concerned, is the public opinion battle for belief in your definitions, and not those of the opposition. A consistent, repeated effort is the key to any success with this technique of propaganda.”
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 5 October 1971, PR Series 12, “Propaganda by Redefinition of Words”

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The worldwide "spiritual headquarters" of the Church of Scientology is located in the city of Clearwater, Florida[1] (http://flag.org/). Officially known in Scientology as Flag Land Base, this international headquarters was founded in the late 1970s when an anonymous Scientology-founded group called "United Council of Churches" purchased the Fort Harrison Hotel for $3 million.
The citizens and City Council of Clearwater did not realize that the building's owners were actually the Church of Scientology until after the building's purchase. Clearwater citizens groups, headed by Mayor Gabe Cazares, rallied against Scientology establishing a base in the city (repeatedly referring to the organization as a cult), but Flag Land Base was established nonetheless.
In the years since its foundation, Flag Land Base has expanded as the church has gradually purchased additional property in the downtown Clearwater area. Its relationship with the city has repeatedly moved between "friendly" and "hostile," as the church has worked with the city to establish better relations; while at the same time actively opposing the local St. Petersburg Times newspaper and even protesting the Clearwater police department.
Scientology's largest project in Clearwater has been the construction of a huge high-rise complex called the "Super Power Building," an enormous structure whose highest point, when completed, will be a huge Scientology cross that will tower over the city.
The citizens and City Council of Clearwater did not realize that the building's owners were actually the Church of Scientology until after the building's purchase. Clearwater citizens groups, headed by Mayor Gabe Cazares, rallied against Scientology establishing a base in the city (repeatedly referring to the organization as a cult), but Flag Land Base was established nonetheless.
In the years since its foundation, Flag Land Base has expanded as the church has gradually purchased additional property in the downtown Clearwater area. Its relationship with the city has repeatedly moved between "friendly" and "hostile," as the church has worked with the city to establish better relations; while at the same time actively opposing the local St. Petersburg Times newspaper and even protesting the Clearwater police department.
Scientology's largest project in Clearwater has been the construction of a huge high-rise complex called the "Super Power Building," an enormous structure whose highest point, when completed, will be a huge Scientology cross that will tower over the city.