Amount of songs that can fit on a cd

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:24 am

What is the technical reason why I can only fit ~20 songs on a blasted cd? When there is enough room for houndreds?

Keep It Real · Post by **Keep It Real** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:28 am

mp3 files are compressed, i guess, and when you go to change them to cd audio they get real big

Post by **Grandpa Stu** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:32 am

the question you pose is rather vague, however i think i might know what you're talking about.

when you burn a standard audio cd it converts any audio file format you may be using, such as .mp3, to a .wav format which can then be read in any cd player. whereas a .mp3 file will take up ~8mb of space a .wav file can take up about 10x that amount of space for the same song.

now if you have a mp3 capable cd player then you can just burn all your .mp3 files onto a data disc and you can then enjoy hundreds of songs.

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:38 am

Grandpa Stu wrote:the question you pose is rather vague, however i think i might know what you're talking about.

when you burn a standard audio cd it converts any audio file format you may be using, such as .mp3, to a .wav format which can then be read in any cd player. whereas a .mp3 file will take up ~8mb of space a .wav file can take up about 10x that amount of space for the same song.

now if you have a mp3 capable cd player then you can just burn all your .mp3 files onto a data disc and you can then enjoy hundreds of songs.

:lub: I've got a kinda new cd player in the truck... *Checks their webby*

edit: btw, that was spot on sir.

Keep It Real · Post by **Keep It Real** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:39 am

bork[e] wrote:
Grandpa Stu wrote:the question you pose is rather vague, however i think i might know what you're talking about.

when you burn a standard audio cd it converts any audio file format you may be using, such as .mp3, to a .wav format which can then be read in any cd player. whereas a .mp3 file will take up ~8mb of space a .wav file can take up about 10x that amount of space for the same song.

now if you have a mp3 capable cd player then you can just burn all your .mp3 files onto a data disc and you can then enjoy hundreds of songs.

:lub: I've got a kinda new cd player in the truck... *Checks their webby*

edit: btw, that was spot on sir.

get one of those things that lets you plug your ipod into the stereo

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:43 am

Keep It Real wrote:
bork[e] wrote:
Grandpa Stu wrote:the question you pose is rather vague, however i think i might know what you're talking about.

when you burn a standard audio cd it converts any audio file format you may be using, such as .mp3, to a .wav format which can then be read in any cd player. whereas a .mp3 file will take up ~8mb of space a .wav file can take up about 10x that amount of space for the same song.

now if you have a mp3 capable cd player then you can just burn all your .mp3 files onto a data disc and you can then enjoy hundreds of songs.

:lub: I've got a kinda new cd player in the truck... *Checks their webby*

edit: btw, that was spot on sir.
get one of those things that lets you plug your ipod into the stereo

Until you find me a way to download an ipod I'll stick with what I got.

And come to find out for the past 1 1/2 years I've been burning 20 song cd's while I could have been filling the bastard up...the cd play I have supports mp3zz. :icon32:

thanks again dude.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:29 am

actually, i don't technically think it's a wave file anymore once it's burned. it'll be .cda's. if you were to explore an audio cd that you just created, there are no .wav extensions and you cannot extract any songs, unless you convert them back to .wav/mp3/etc. etc.

p.s. be careful with your mp3 cd player. some don't do so well with certain encoders and certain types of .mp3's (vbr, etc)

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:42 am

I could only fit one song on my CD

........ It lasted 74 minutes

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:46 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:actually, i don't technically think it's a wave file anymore once it's burned. it'll be .cda's. if you were to explore an audio cd that you just created, there are no .wav extensions and you cannot extract any songs, unless you convert them back to .wav/mp3/etc. etc.

p.s. be careful with your mp3 cd player. some don't do so well with certain encoders and certain types of .mp3's (vbr, etc)

even better, its not even any fileformat. windows read the toc data and interprets them as '.cda' for its own purposes.
it actually is just a data track with a toc data at the beginning, stating where one 'track' should end and the next one starts

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:18 am

MKJ wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:actually, i don't technically think it's a wave file anymore once it's burned. it'll be .cda's. if you were to explore an audio cd that you just created, there are no .wav extensions and you cannot extract any songs, unless you convert them back to .wav/mp3/etc. etc.

p.s. be careful with your mp3 cd player. some don't do so well with certain encoders and certain types of .mp3's (vbr, etc)
even better, its not even any fileformat. windows read the toc data and interprets them as '.cda' for its own purposes.
it actually is just a data track with a toc data at the beginning, stating where one 'track' should end and the next one starts

yeah, kinda like a header

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:18 am

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:38 am

:icon19:

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:07 pm

any reason I can only access the first 20 something songs of a cd that has around 200+ songs on it? I've hit every button on the player and remote and I can't change it.

The face looks like this: F01 Track 1.

I was thinking FO1 ment folder1 or something but when I put the cd back in the pc it's only files...

Their pdf manual only says that their product can play mp3 and doesn't say what's going on here?

any idea?

Keep It Real · Post by **Keep It Real** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:11 pm

Eraser wrote:I could only fit one song on my CD ........ It lasted 74 minutes

must have been a boring song

Post by **Grudge** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:16 pm

bork[e] wrote:any reason I can only access the first 20 something songs of a cd that has around 200+ songs on it? I've hit every button on the player and remote and I can't change it.

The face looks like this: F01 Track 1.

I was thinking FO1 ment folder1 or something but when I put the cd back in the pc it's only files...

Their pdf manual only says that their product can play mp3 and doesn't say what's going on here?

any idea?

you probably have to name them and file them on the disk according to the ISO standard, or the player won't find them. Nero and most burning apps can take care of that when burning the disk. I don't think the XP burning utility will do that.

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:19 pm

ahh...thanks.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:29 pm

is it a r/w? maybe it's only reading the first session.

using Nero?

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:41 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:is it a r/w? maybe it's only reading the first session.

using Nero?

The DEH-P4500MP supports R and RW. Are you finalizing the disc? Burning in data mode?

Post by **Dr.Gibbs** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:54 pm

bork[e] wrote:Until you find me a way to download an ipod I'll stick with what I got.

Someone needs to come up with a way to pirate electronics.

Post by **4g3nt_Smith** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:10 pm

Dr.Gibbs wrote:
bork[e] wrote:Until you find me a way to download an ipod I'll stick with what I got.
Someone needs to come up with a way to pirate electronics.

Smash and grab?

Post by **sliver** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:13 pm

wait till that scientist finishes his star trek fabricator machine. Then you can get yourself an ipod as long as you know someone else who has one. Although the machine will probably cost ten grand or more if it ever gets working.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:21 pm

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:29 pm

using Nero?
- yup

Burning in data mode?
- not sure, only had time to try once with Nero, and it's doing the same thing. Will try again later.

Post by **plained** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:53 pm

sliver wrote:wait till that scientist finishes his star trek fabricator machine. Then you can get yourself an ipod as long as you know someone else who has one. Although the machine will probably cost ten grand or more if it ever gets working.

yea that and Va-poo-rize ey lol

Post by **shiv4** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:31 pm

bork[e] wrote:What is the technical reason why I can only fit ~20 songs on a blasted cd? When there is enough room for houndreds?

There is no technical reason for that. I think standard cd players were limited to 99 audio tracks, but that's rather old news.

As for MP3s: There are players (like my car player) that don't accept files inside folders. Some players only want them placed in folders. Other players don't like mp3s with variable bitrates or lower than 128 or 96 kbps bitrates. Even filenames can cause trouble if they don't fit certain standards. - For me it was really annoying, because I had to re-burn a lot of my homeplayer cds a second time just for the player in the car.

Anyway, the players fucking manual should be your friend.

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