3 Unsecured wireless networks in your area

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:00 pm

What would you do?

I noted 3 out of 7 networks in my area are unsecured. I already connected to one and downloaded some system updates, but I feel bad because I know it's ethically wrong.

So i'm not sure if I should inform these people some how or simply make use of their stupidity to setup a torrent server/download station using their wifi. Cunty I know, but... it's like they want me to do it...

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:06 pm

Ethically wrong?

Scenarios:
1. They use their internet connection so little that they never notice you using their connection. Result you get internet access, they suffer none.
2. They notice someone using their wireless without permission. Result they look into how it happens and fix the problem

There are 2 issues that could arise:

1. They could have a bandwidth cap and you could end up costing them a lot of money on their connection bill. The solution to this is to check their ISP (if you can connect through it you can look up the ISP from the IP address). If they're on metered access, leave it alone

2. You download copyrighted material and get them in trouble. Stick to legitimate media. It's not as if there's a shortage.

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:24 pm

riddla wrote:find out where they are and inform them of being rogue idiots.

My good nature is urging me to notify them.

My Foo is urging me to bilk it within reason.

Hmm... what would Confucious do....

Post by **-Replicant-** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:25 pm

see if they have printer sharing enabled and go to town on them

Post by **blood.angel** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:26 pm

Leave them, you never know when you might need a backup link when yours fails.

Post by **prince1000** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:40 pm

COOL BLUE YOU REALLY ARE COOL YOU HAVE 3 OUT OF 7 AVAILABLE NETWORKS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:44 pm

prince1000 wrote:COOL BLUE YOU REALLY ARE COOL YOU HAVE 3 OUT OF 7 AVAILABLE NETWORKS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

?!

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:45 pm

So I think what I'm gonna do is setup Bitcomet on my notebook and have it download files to my server 24/7 keeping my conn free of latency and traffic.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:46 pm

-Replicant- wrote:see if they have printer sharing enabled and go to town on them

If they have a shared printer, Make a little notepad doc that says "Hello, Thank you for sharing your entire network"

Basicly leave em a note that says they are tools and need to secure it..

Post by **plained** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:46 pm

yea thats how HE does it wow

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:50 pm

I did that already a long time ago. I noticed a woman with her Win98 box shared off (C drive shared with full permissions) over her wireless. I felt bad for her so I added her printer and printed off a nice little tutorial I wrote up on how to lock down your firewall with WEP security. I took my wifi network offline shortly after so I dunno what the outcome was.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:05 pm

3 out of 7? Doesn't that strike anyone as kindof an odd statistic? I could understand 3 out of 6 or 50% but 7?

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:06 pm

Kracus wrote:3 out of 7? Doesn't that strike anyone as kindof an odd statistic? I could understand 3 out of 6 or 50% but 7?

Lol what? He's talking about how many are actually in his neighborhood.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:09 pm

Kracus wrote:3 out of 7? Doesn't that strike anyone as kindof an odd statistic? I could understand 3 out of 6 or 50% but 7?

:icon27:

i hate to agree with Blood.Fart, but leave them be in case you need to use one some day.

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:11 pm

I wish there was just ONE that was not secure around here.

Walking around town I found an area with 30+ of the little fuckers...

Every one has WEP enabled... Grrr...

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:14 pm

o'dium wrote:I wish there was just ONE that was not secure around here.

Walking around town I found an area with 30+ of the little fuckers...

Every one has WEP enabled... Grrr...

WEP's pretty weak, but at least those guys have something rolling around in their cranial turrets.

Post by **nsaP** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:16 pm

I can always pick up mine (which is MAC and WEP protected). Every once in a while two unprotected ones show up. I connected to one once but then felt dirty :/.

Any reason why they would pop up at different times and not be constant? Other than the owner turning everything off when they aren't using their computer?

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:17 pm

Yeah but this is for my PSP....

I cant get online via a USB hooked up to the think (WHY SONY???), and I dont have wireless in my house.

So every time i search for locations, I find loads, but all with WEP or some other security (SEblah blah something or another).

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:20 pm

o'dium wrote:Yeah but this is for my PSP....

I cant get online via a USB hooked up to the think (WHY SONY???), and I dont have wireless in my house.

So every time i search for locations, I find loads, but all with WEP or some other security (SEblah blah something or another).

ah.

you have that RSS homebrew on yours?

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:24 pm

So why isn't security standard on this wireless interweb stuff?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:26 pm

it is standard, but manufacturers make it impossible for your average joe to enable it since most wizards don't even ask if you want to set it up or not. these include: dlink, netgear and linksys. i've set up each of these in the past 3 months though, so maybe some have changed, but i doubt it.

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:28 pm

Oh, yeah. But i guess what i meant was why is it enabled standard?

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:29 pm

All of the above manufacturers have products which do enable wep as part of the wizard. However this was not present on older kit for many wireless manufacturers.

Post by **o'dium** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:30 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
o'dium wrote:Yeah but this is for my PSP....

I cant get online via a USB hooked up to the think (WHY SONY???), and I dont have wireless in my house.

So every time i search for locations, I find loads, but all with WEP or some other security (SEblah blah something or another).
ah.

you have that RSS homebrew on yours?

Probably doesn't work on 1.51 and over, not a lot does. I upgraded to 2.0 for the time being because i get a new one soon (7 dead pixels, weee!!) so i'll be back down to 1.52 soon... That doesn't make a HUGE bit of difference, because there isn't anything that works on 1.52 either, lol...

I only upgraded because a) its only for a week or so, so i can check it and b) its easier than hacking wipeout pure every time i want to go online.

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:31 pm

Foo wrote:All of the above manufacturers have products which do enable wep as part of the wizard. However this was not present on older kit for many wireless manufacturers.

Oh, aha. I see.