Azareus

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:50 am

I've finally decided to have another go with using torrents since I had no success a few months ago with any sort of speed, and am currently downloading a 1.08 Gb file. I found a guide which told me exactly how to forward the 6881 port to my specific firewall, ( pc-cillin), and I followed it to the letter. I have no router, and so, everything is hunky dory, green smiley, port test ok. Before forwarding I was getting a NAT error.

Anyway, I've been messing around with upload speeds to improve my download speeds. On default it was at 40kb/s and line 384kb/s, and I was getting around 15 to 25kb/s download. I changed to 'customise' for line speed, and changed my max upload speed to 20kb/s. Now my download speed is fairly consistently getting between 35 to 41kb/s, occasionally hitting around 49kb/s, and once hit 54kb/s. My internet connection is 2Mbit. There are currently seeds 13(42) and peers 65(259). Is there a way I can still improve my download speed? I've tried upload speeds of 10, 15 and 25, but 20kb/s is giving me the best speed of all of those. Also, should I be getting a lot more anyway? I read a thread where memphis ended up getting 100kb/s download, and he also has a 2Mbit conn. Would a different port make much difference? I believe I can use any number up to 65535.

edit: I've hit 79kb/s a couple of times since posting this, but on average I'm still around 20's and 30's.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:49 pm

why do people always go with resource-hogging software firewalls? get a router, spaz.

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:52 pm

I agree with Juggs. Software firewalls should only really be used as a second layer of security (and only then when a second layer is called for such as in a business environment). Routers are cheap and much more effective.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:53 pm

no more tips for you drummeh, you warez monkey.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:55 pm

I've read about people having plenty problems behind routers. Besides, it makes no difference to my speed whether my firewall is on or off since I configured the port. I'm testing it now, firewall is off, speed hasn't increased, putting firewall back on, and so up yours juggy!

Post by **Doombrain** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:05 pm

DRuM wrote:I've read about people having plenty problems behind routers. Besides, it makes no difference to my speed whether my firewall is on or off since I configured the port. I'm testing it now, firewall is off, speed hasn't increased, putting firewall back on, and so up yours juggy!

Network expert.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:19 pm

Doombrain wrote:
DRuM wrote:I've read about people having plenty problems behind routers. Besides, it makes no difference to my speed whether my firewall is on or off since I configured the port. I'm testing it now, firewall is off, speed hasn't increased, putting firewall back on, and so up yours juggy!
Network expert.

All I read about is people that can't even get the speeds I'm getting, ( which are pretty shit), because of NAT errors that they can't configure with their routers. Since I've tested the download speed without my firewall enabled and it didn't improve, I can't see how getting a router would help my torrent. The only thing that is a resource hog is azareus itself since it's slowing down my browsing slightly. Meanwhile, noone has answered my questions. Where's that dzjepp when you need him! :icon26:

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:32 pm

DRuM wrote:I've read about people having plenty problems behind routers. Besides, it makes no difference to my speed whether my firewall is on or off since I configured the port. I'm testing it now, firewall is off, speed hasn't increased, putting firewall back on, and so up yours juggy!

what kind of problems would those be?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:35 pm

DRuM wrote:
All I read about is people that can't even get the speeds I'm getting, ( which are pretty shit), because of NAT errors that they can't configure with their routers. Since I've tested the download speed without my firewall enabled and it didn't improve, I can't see how getting a router would help my torrent. The only thing that is a resource hog is azareus itself since it's slowing down my browsing slightly.

i never said getting a router would help your torrent. i'm not here to help you with your torrent. i'm here to wisen you up to a hardware firewall. no sense in having an app running in the background 24/7, when you can get a fairly cheap piece of gear.

oh, i get it, you can't warez gear.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:36 pm

Read above, juggly, I already told ya.

But seriously, you are the expert here far more than me, so what benefits do I get from a router regarding downloads with torrent clients based on what I said?

edit: doh!

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:39 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
i never said getting a router would help your torrent. i'm not here to help you with your torrent. i'm here to wisen you up to a hardware firewall. no sense in having an app running in the background 24/7, when you can get a fairly cheap piece of gear.

oh, i get it, you can't warez gear.

what does warez mean, I have not heard of this assemblance of letters before

PC-cillin works fine and doesn't seem to slow me down that I've noticed. Maybe it does? I'll look into a router. What do you recommend oh router god?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:41 pm

security-wise you should get a hardware router. i'm not saying it's going to improve your speeds (no such thing), but it certainly won't slow things down.

Linksys or Netgear i recommend. *kiss*

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:48 pm

Any model Linksys or Netgear will do? Come on juggly, I want numbers and I want them now!!!

Like I said, pc-cillin on or off doesn't affect the speed so it's not slowing it down anyway.

Security wise, you haven't explained that. How does a hardware router protect better than pc-cillins firewall? I'm sure it does if you say so, but in what way. Come on, convert the noob with some salestalk. *kiss*

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:19 pm

i recommend the Linksys WRT54G.

here's some reasons why you should get a router, drummeh.

this link is a little old, but NAT hasn't changed.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:34 pm

Thank you sir.

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:33 pm

The one Jug recommended is good. Also consider the Dlink DI-604 or Netgear 118 if you don't need wireless.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:00 pm

Tormentius wrote:The one Jug recommended is good. Also consider the Dlink DI-604 or Netgear 118 if you don't need wireless.

you know what i think about Dlink. that's why i didn't recommend. your mileage may vary, drummeh.

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:16 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote: your mileage may vary, drummeh.

I hope you're not referring to my age :icon33:

And thank you Mr.T

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:53 pm

HEy! It easts up 40% of my ram! I'll Take Two!

* cough *

Uhh, hi guys

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:58 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:HEy! It easts up 40% of my ram! I'll Take Two!

* cough *

Uhh, hi guys

Post by **DRuM** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:03 pm

Hi amidy.
Hey look I got another question. My connection is 2Mbit. So I think that means my upload speed is 256kbps. Therefore, my maximum upload transfer rate is 256 divided by 8 = 32kb/sec. Is that all correct? In which case, I should set upload speeds to 80% of that =
25. I hear people talking about uploading at 50kb/sec and getting a double payback of 100kb/sec download. So how would I achieve the same if my maximum upload is so limited?

Also, I hear people saying azareus is a resource hog, and that bitcomet and ABC are the fastest. Anyone had experience? Btw, I finally got my 1.08GB download finished, it took about 11 hours at an average speed of around 30 to 35kb/sec.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:37 am

jesus, We'll man, persionally i use torrentStorm.. the project itsself is closed down but you can easly find the install off of Filemirrors or anything

it has an interface Very simular to Azerious ( not as flashy ) But uses Bittornado's/Shadow's Client as the Main Section of the prog.

Also, i'm wondering about your upload question, are you still downloading as fast as you are uploading? please say no... please...

Post by **DRuM** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:39 am

Well I've been uploading at 20kb/sec and getting around mid 30's download. I've tried ABC torrent today and I think it's better than azareus, slightly, getting around 50kb/sec a bit more consistently.

I have another question about ports. When I set the port number 6881 in my firewall for azareus, I had to also specify application : C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\javaw.exe because it's java based.

If I want to use the same port number for another non java torrent client such as ABC, do I need to add another new rule in my firewall but select the application ABC.exe as the path? Or just choose 'all applications'? Or will non java torrents see the azareus port anyway? If you get my drift

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:41 am

you are using a software hirewall right? your not behind a router?

Post by **DRuM** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:11 am

Yeah, PC-cillin Internet Security 2005. No router. Currently forwarded single port to it for azareus but I need to forward a minimum and maximum port to it for ABC.