I'm surprised..

Post by **dzjepp** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:16 am

A pissing contest

Post by **Canis** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:23 am

Cool! Then I win...regardless...'nuff said!

...you all lose!

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:24 am

Post by **Canis** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:25 am

now now, dont cry....go have fun urinating on dzjepp and all will be better. He apparently loves it.

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:31 am

way ahead of you
*zips up*

Post by **Dave** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:40 am

This thread reminds me of a conversation i had with a guy at work yesterday. He said Ronald Reagan said something when he was president about nuclear weapons, and I asked him where he heard that from. He tried to tell me that he didn't remember and since we were just having a conversation, he didn't have to prove what he said.

It was funny because he was an English major and I'm a history major and it ended up being educated opinion (wikipedia/English) vs. proof (non-wikipedia/History).

Driven either by a desire to win or by a guilty conscious (or both), my friend gets on Google and gives me proof from a newspaper.

The moral of the story is, Wikipedia is a mine field.

Post by **Canis** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:43 am

Well, I agree that things said in conversations dont need to be proved left and right. Sure it's expected that folks know their facts, but if conversations are constantly battles of who knows more and who's right, then it's no longer a conversation. Both parties can easily discuss both sides of an issue. Otherwise it's a debate which can be quite stressful and frustrating.

Post by **Dave** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:46 am

Yeah, but in this case, my friend was saying that Reagan learned about the horrors of nuclear weapons from watching a movie. It seemed a little outlandish, even for Reagan, so I asked him to prove it and he got defensive. So we ended up arguing for about an hour about what you guys are arguing about right now.

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:54 am

so he told you something about reagon, you asked for proof and you two ended up arguing about whether or not the Carmacks are related?

how quaint

Post by **Canis** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:54 am

Of course he was defenseive, I'd be too if you took a stab at what was said like that. I'd personally take it for granted that he legitimately heard that piece of info somewhere. I used to work at a zoo where they would present turkey vultures as one of two birds that had a sense of smell. This wasnt exactly true, as many birds have senses of smell, however the vulture has a much sharper sense of smell than many other birds. I picked up on this and when I was in a conversation with some grad students at my university, I mentioned this "fact" in the conversation and was immediately landed upon. Needless to say it really pissed me off and I became extra defensive. They never discussed it with me but flat out berated saying I was wrong with words like "prove it" and such. It was a simple matter of wording, but became an attack that just ruined the conversation.

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:57 am

Dave wrote:Yeah, but in this case, my friend was saying that Reagan learned about the horrors of nuclear weapons from watching a movie. It seemed a little outlandish, even for Reagan, so I asked him to prove it and he got defensive.

Heh, i find that very believable actually.

Post by **Dave** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:57 am

But if you take the time, despite them, to prove it, and shove it back in their faces, you get to gloat

Post by **Canis** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:58 am

Is this "friend" an asshole to any degree?

Post by **Dave** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:02 am

No, we usually agree, but get bogged down in the details. My point was that you should be prepared at anytime to justify yourself otherwise you're just full of crap. I didn't expect a book name, author and page number, but I expected a little direction. "Well, it was by so and so, i think" or "it was a book about such and such".

Post by **raw** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:02 pm

I think John Carmack's wife is pulling his strings through his genitals.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:00 pm

wasn't she a test pilot for his rocket?
what ever happened to that?

Post by **Canis** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:37 am

SplishSplash wrote:wasn't she a test pilot for his rocket?
what ever happened to that?

The Latest: http://www.armadilloaerospace.com

Post by **raw** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:21 pm

SplishSplash wrote:wasn't she a test pilot for his rocket?
what ever happened to that?

Yes, I do believe she was the first to test pilot his meat rocket.