Getting the most FPS I can...

Post by **bdub84** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:05 am

My system specs are as follows:

P4 2.8g 800 fsb
1 gig pc3200 ram
ATI x850 pro 256 mb

What settings in the console can I adjust to give me the smoothest gameplay? I sometimes drop to 10 fps during action. I'm used to playing Q3 with a constant 125 fps and being as smooth as can be.

Post by **dzjepp** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:11 am

Give this config file a try: http://www.inevitabledemise.com/td/q4/

Post by **dubz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:29 am

i tested the cfg and it feels nice in mp where i dont mind everything even uglier than q3 but playing sp like this just sucks
so what do the min. spec. bring you, 2 fps?

Post by **Madvil** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:36 am

Wouldnt be that kind of tweaked cfg...illegal to some tournaments?

Post by **shaft** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:15 am

dzjepp wrote:Give this config file a try: http://www.inevitabledemise.com/td/q4/

I have pretty similar specs:

AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton)
2Gb Ram
x800 XT PE (AGP)

Ive lowered my vid settings as low as they go (800x600) ..used that cfg (looks like shit) and my fps still drops to 10-15 whenever I go into a flagroom with 5 ppl in it.

What gives?

Post by **Grudge** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:51 am

Probably your CPU is limiting you.

Post by **alright** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:56 am

shaft wrote:
dzjepp wrote:Give this config file a try: http://www.inevitabledemise.com/td/q4/
I have pretty similar specs:

AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton)
2Gb Ram
x800 XT PE (AGP)

Ive lowered my vid settings as low as they go (800x600) ..used that cfg (looks like shit) and my fps still drops to 10-15 whenever I go into a flagroom with 5 ppl in it.

What gives?

I had a very similar problem, drove me up the wall, until I noticed that it was only when numerous sounds were playing simutaneously that I was being dropped to 10 fps.... Here's what fixed it for me:

Go into your Sound Settings and DISABLE OpenAL. I had this enabled, which apparently isnt (fully?) compatible with my Audigy 2 ZS. As soon as I disabled it the game felt like it could breathe again.

Let me know if this helps... it may be worth adding this to a more prominent thread as I imagine it could be plaguing several people.

The console command is:

seta s_useOpenAL "0"

Post by **Oeloe** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:51 am

Grudge wrote:Probably your CPU is limiting you.

Give me a break. An XP 3200+ limiting a X850 to 10 fps... The problem must be somewhere else.

Post by **Grudge** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:20 am

Oeloe wrote:
Grudge wrote:Probably your CPU is limiting you.
Give me a break. An XP 3200+ limiting a X850 to 10 fps... The problem must be somewhere else.

It has nothing to do with the graphics card, the game is just very CPU intensive when there are lots of players on the server - especially when they're all in the same room shooting at each other.

The graphics card can draw the scene at a higher framerate, and it would, if you had a faster CPU that could serve it with enough data faster.

Post by **INBetweener** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:13 pm

Grudge wrote:
Oeloe wrote:
Grudge wrote:Probably your CPU is limiting you.
Give me a break. An XP 3200+ limiting a X850 to 10 fps... The problem must be somewhere else.

I'd have to agree. I have an AMD XP 3000+, 6800 GT 128MB, 1GB Ram and I seldom dip below 60fps. I benchmark at 79.5fps using a standard demo with about 8 people on. Of course, I have antialiasing either off or way down and I play at 8x6 on High Quality but I turn off shadows!!

Post by **Rogue** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:56 pm

This is my autoexec.cfg so far (im happy with my q4 performance, but will add to it when i am only playing MP):-

seta r_preload "1"
seta r_displayRefresh "85"
seta r_customHeight "768"
seta r_customWidth "1024"
seta r_fullscreen "1"
seta r_shadows "0"
seta r_forceLoadImages "1"
seta com_allowConsole "1"
seta com_preloadDemos "1"
seta image_useCache "1"
seta image_cacheMegs "256"
seta image_cacheMinK "20480"
seta g_bloodEffects "1"
seta g_showPlayerShadow "0"
seta g_showProjectilePct "0"
seta g_showcamerainfo "0"
seta g_muzzleFlash "0"
seta g_doubleVision "0"
seta g_decals "0"
seta g_showBrass "1"
seta g_ShowHud "1"
seta g_skipFX "1"
seta g_skipViewEffects "0"
seta g_projectileLights "0"
seta in_alwaysRun "1"
seta com_showFPS "1"
seta ui_autoSwitch "0"
seta ui_autoReload "1"

I get 52.47fps @1024x768 Medium Quality using the timedemo.netdemo someone posted in the "Timedemo" thread...

Specs:
AMDXP 3200+
1gb Dual Chan Ram
Audigy2
9800Pro 128mb

Stutters sometimes as u go into a new room, but apart from that its very playable imo

Post by **Madvil** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:40 pm

...Yet nobody answered my question yet, sigh...
i guess its a yes then...

Post by **shaft** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:01 pm

Rogue wrote:I get 52.47fps @1024x768 Medium Quality using the timedemo.netdemo someone posted in the "Timedemo" thread...

Specs:
AMDXP 3200+
1gb Dual Chan Ram
Audigy2
9800Pro 128mb

Stutters sometimes as u go into a new room, but apart from that its very playable imo

I got 49.45 fps in that timedemo. I really think that demo is tame compared to what its like 8vs8 CTF when you go into a flagroom.

Post by **shaft** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:02 pm

alright wrote:
I had a very similar problem, drove me up the wall, until I noticed that it was only when numerous sounds were playing simutaneously that I was being dropped to 10 fps.... Here's what fixed it for me:

Go into your Sound Settings and DISABLE OpenAL. I had this enabled, which apparently isnt (fully?) compatible with my Audigy 2 ZS. As soon as I disabled it the game felt like it could breathe again.

Let me know if this helps... it may be worth adding this to a more prominent thread as I imagine it could be plaguing several people.

The console command is:

seta s_useOpenAL "0"

I checked that..it was already disabled

Post by **shaft** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:04 pm

Grudge wrote:Probably your CPU is limiting you.

Thanks, youre probably right. Really sucks, I'm not ready to put down money for a new cpu/mobo/vid quite yet.

Post by **eviscuno** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:29 pm

i have yet to find a cfg that gives me more than a 6fps boost

Post by **Cable81** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:16 pm

I have the same behaivour in MP. Dropping as low as 10-20fps witha few players on screen, no matter my res and detail.

To test my frame rate oddness in mp i created a server (rules out server lag) and went to the same spot in a largish map.

640 x 480 low, averything off
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~jc131364/low.jpg

1280 x 1024 everything on except AA
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~jc131364/high.jpg

1 fps gain at the lower settings? somethings amiss i think.

I know the two shots aren't in exactly the same spot (and my fov is increased in the 1280 one) but if anything this should make the fps difference more pronounced.

my system specs -
A64 300+ Venice @ 2.3
7800GT
2gb RAM

Post by **R00k** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:56 pm

Damn, I'm going to those same specs pretty much

A64 3800+ (dual core though, hopefully that will help some, but I doubt much)
2gb OCZ 2-3-2-5
7800GT

I sure as hell hope I can do better than 40fps in an empty room.

I wonder if creating your own server and playing it kills your framerates any. It didn't really in Q3, but who knows?

Post by **Cable81** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:02 am

Rook, the only reason i created my own server was so i could take consistant screenies. I get the 10-20 fps slowdown in online mp games also.

I think it is a bug of some kind (i hope) as other people seem to get smooth frame rates in mp.

Post by **R00k** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:08 am

It's definitely a problem with your system or config. I just loaded up the same map on my machine, and I'm getting 45 fps in that spot.
My current machine:

Athlon 3200
1gb
Radeon 9600XT

If I'm getting better frames than you with that config, something's up.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:09 am

People should post 3dmark2k3/2k5 results as well as their hardware and report on how well the game works. That way we can know if the system is working well overall or not. Is the timedemo working yet?

Post by **shaft** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:36 am

Cable81 wrote:I have the same behaivour in MP. Dropping as low as 10-20fps witha few players on screen, no matter my res and detail.

To test my frame rate oddness in mp i created a server (rules out server lag) and went to the same spot in a largish map.

640 x 480 low, averything off
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~jc131364/low.jpg

1280 x 1024 everything on except AA
http://homes.jcu.edu.au/~jc131364/high.jpg

1 fps gain at the lower settings? somethings amiss i think.

I know the two shots aren't in exactly the same spot (and my fov is increased in the 1280 one) but if anything this should make the fps difference more pronounced.

my system specs -
A64 300+ Venice @ 2.3
7800GT
2gb RAM

That spot is brutal, I get massive framedrop when I walk through there on an empty server also.

Post by **shaft** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:04 am

Post by **RedAlley** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:28 pm

I have the exact same system as you:

2.8 GHZ P4.

1 GIG RAM

X850 PRO 256MB

Audigy 4

And the FPS are TERRIBLE in mp and sometimes in sp... just not acceptable.

My fps are the same weather my setting are on low or high. SOMETHING IS WRONG. PATCH.

Post by **shiznit** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:42 pm

I think it has to do with the CPU more then the graphics card.

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