any of you ever (rim and tire question...)

Post by **q4aholic** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:20 pm

manually changed a set of tires from one set of rims to another.... without proper tools?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:21 pm

yea, and i would not recommend doing it.

Also, i would not recommend inflating a tire with wd40 and a lighter.

Post by **losCHUNK** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:28 pm

or try to tow a wheel off a car

Post by **q4aholic** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:37 pm

alright, it blew me back about 3 feet and the bar hit my finger. blood? a little.

Post by **zewulf** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:00 pm

Dude, without proper tools, I wouldn't even think about it. Breaking the seal on a tire mounting machine is scary enough as it is already...

Post by **zewulf** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:01 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:Also, i would not recommend inflating a tire with wd40 and a lighter.

what kinda retard would inflate a tire with WD40 and a lighter?

Post by **q4aholic** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:02 pm

i broke the seal and i'm done...no way i am fighting it off that rim or doing the other 3 tires...

Post by **q4aholic** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:03 pm

zewulf wrote:
AmIdYfReAk wrote:Also, i would not recommend inflating a tire with wd40 and a lighter.
what kinda retard would inflate a tire with WD40 and a lighter?

i think he was being a smartass and comparing what i was doing to something equally retarded...atleast thats how i took it

Post by **shadd_** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:22 pm

zewulf wrote:
AmIdYfReAk wrote:Also, i would not recommend inflating a tire with wd40 and a lighter.
what kinda retard would inflate a tire with WD40 and a lighter?

it can be unsafe but people stuck out in the field do it all the time. ether is the best and you only need a small amount. throw a match and look away.

how else can you set a bead without proper tools?

Post by **R00k** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:34 pm

Bah, you guys are pussies. All you need to remount tires are

Air compressor (to bead/air them up after they're mounted)
Tire tool, with the lugwrench on one end and the prybar on the other end
Two more pry bars (one can just be a large screwdriver, but you want one of them long and strong enough that you can get decent leverage on.
Hammer - preferably a very small sledge

First, let all the air out of the tire, either by holding something in the valve to deflate it, or easier is taking the valve core out of the valve stem with a valve stem tool.

After the air is out, take the hammer and beat the tire all around the outside of the rim (tire lying flat on the ground), near the rim, until the bead breaks. Turn it over and repeat on the other side.

After that, take your first prybar, put it between the tire and the rim, and pry the tire over the rim.

Take the second prybar, space it as far from the first as you can, while still being able to pull it back and pull the edge of the tire over the rim.

After you get part of the tire over the rim that way, put your foot on the first two prybars to hold them down, and put the third pry bar in near the second one, and pry the tire over the rim.

At this point, you can take out the second prybar (the one in the middle), and put it past the third one, and pull more tire over the rim.

Rinse and repeat, working all the way around until the tire is over the rim.

Once you do that, you can go ahead and pull the second edge of the tire over the rim to take it all the way off, which is easier now that you've got half of it removed.

Mounting the new tire:

Lay the rim on the ground. Hold the tire, grabbing the outside bead with both hands next to each other. Put your foot on top of the rim, on the edge nearest you. Raise the tire over your head, and slam the tire down on the rim hard, to get as much of it on the rim as possible.

After that, you can use the hammer to gently beat the tire onto the rim all the way around. Do the same with the second, outside bead, to get the tire all the way on.

After that, if you have a decent air compressor, you can begin airing up the tire, and the bead will eventually pop on if you're inflating it with enough pressure.

Don't be a pussy!!!1

Post by **bitWISE** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:40 pm

shadd_ wrote:
zewulf wrote:
AmIdYfReAk wrote:Also, i would not recommend inflating a tire with wd40 and a lighter.
what kinda retard would inflate a tire with WD40 and a lighter?
it can be unsafe but people stuck out in the field do it all the time. ether is the best and you only need a small amount. throw a match and look away.

how else can you set a bead without proper tools?

Exactly. My dad used to own a dump truck and he would always seal those huge ass tires up with a can of ether.

Post by **shadd_** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:02 pm

R00k wrote:Bah, you guys are pussies. All you need to remount tires are

Air compressor (to bead/air them up after they're mounted)
Tire tool, with the lugwrench on one end and the prybar on the other end
Two more pry bars (one can just be a large screwdriver, but you want one of them long and strong enough that you can get decent leverage on.
Hammer - preferably a very small sledge

First, let all the air out of the tire, either by holding something in the valve to deflate it, or easier is taking the valve core out of the valve stem with a valve stem tool.

After the air is out, take the hammer and beat the tire all around the outside of the rim (tire lying flat on the ground), near the rim, until the bead breaks. Turn it over and repeat on the other side.

After that, take your first prybar, put it between the tire and the rim, and pry the tire over the rim.

Take the second prybar, space it as far from the first as you can, while still being able to pull it back and pull the edge of the tire over the rim.

After you get part of the tire over the rim that way, put your foot on the first two prybars to hold them down, and put the third pry bar in near the second one, and pry the tire over the rim.

At this point, you can take out the second prybar (the one in the middle), and put it past the third one, and pull more tire over the rim.

Rinse and repeat, working all the way around until the tire is over the rim.

Once you do that, you can go ahead and pull the second edge of the tire over the rim to take it all the way off, which is easier now that you've got half of it removed.

Mounting the new tire:

Lay the rim on the ground. Hold the tire, grabbing the outside bead with both hands next to each other. Put your foot on top of the rim, on the edge nearest you. Raise the tire over your head, and slam the tire down on the rim hard, to get as much of it on the rim as possible.

After that, you can use the hammer to gently beat the tire onto the rim all the way around. Do the same with the second, outside bead, to get the tire all the way on.

After that, if you have a decent air compressor, you can begin airing up the tire, and the bead will eventually pop on if you're inflating it with enough pressure.

Don't be a pussy!!!1

or you could do it the smart way.

Post by **plained** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:08 pm

i donet thin youll enjoy non-balenced wheels.

you have a truck man, load em up and pay the shop billy a few bucks

Post by **andyman** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:29 pm

plained wrote:i donet thin youll enjoy non-balenced wheels.

you have a truck man, load em up and pay the shop billy a few bucks

spoken like a true hero :props:

Post by **Scourge** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:39 pm

I never pay to have tires mounted. It's really not that hard. I do it similar to the way Rook explains, only takes about 10 minutes.

Post by **q4aholic** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:57 pm

plained wrote:i donet thin youll enjoy non-balenced wheels.

you have a truck man, load em up and pay the shop billy a few bucks

thats the new plan

Post by **duffman91** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:01 pm

There are so many companies that will mount them for you for dirty cheap. I see no reason to do it yourself. Specially since an actual store will spin balance your tires every time you get them mounted or rotated.

Post by **q4aholic** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:20 pm

yeah shop down the way will do all 4 changed over and mounted and balanced for $5 a tire.

Post by **Scourge** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:00 pm

Been doing it myself for over 20 years and never had a problem.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:06 am

losCHUNK wrote:or try to tow a wheel off a car

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:16 am

scourge34 wrote:I never pay to have tires mounted. It's really not that hard. I do it similar to the way Rook explains, only takes about 10 minutes.

so...how do you know they're balanced correctly? how do you adjust for camber or toe-in and measure that?

Post by **zewulf** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:32 am

If you guys want to dismount/mount tires without proper tools, be my guest, but I ain't doing it

Using pry bars and alike to dismount tires is an easy way to damage/bend the rims if you're not careful. And you do need to balance the wheel everytime a tire is mounted.

Post by **zewulf** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:34 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
scourge34 wrote:I never pay to have tires mounted. It's really not that hard. I do it similar to the way Rook explains, only takes about 10 minutes.
so...how do you know they're balanced correctly? how do you adjust for camber or toe-in and measure that?

Toe and camber are suspension adjustments; they're not really relevant in tire changing

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:10 am

zewulf wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
scourge34 wrote:I never pay to have tires mounted. It's really not that hard. I do it similar to the way Rook explains, only takes about 10 minutes.
so...how do you know they're balanced correctly? how do you adjust for camber or toe-in and measure that?
Toe and camber are suspension adjustments; they're not really relevant in tire changing

i added that for effect, knowing full well they cannot do those things at home.