Getting the most FPS I can...

Post by **nomadimage** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:57 pm

upset chaps posted some framerate and connection tweaks/configs:

http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/Quake4Guide.htm

I havent tried any of that out yet but I think I will tonight.

Maybe it will give my ageing system a boost... :icon22:

P4 3.0
1gb ram
9600pro

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:48 pm

This is so frustrating... I'm gonna go exchange my video card at Best Buy hoping that my current card is faulty.

My excuse: overheating.

:icon23:

Post by **nAo dane** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:45 pm

It's always been the same with id games, I'm surprised you expected any different tbh. When Q3 came out nobody could get anywhere near the sweetspot of 125fps (seem to recall having mine capped at 30), It was the same with Q2 too (software mode \o/)

The id engines tend to have a longer shelf life than most (think Call of Duty released some 4 years after Q3 release) and Carmack tends to build for future technology (and dictates it to a certain extent)

It's a bit of a bitch now, but as bigger CPU's and better GFX cards come along we'll really see what the Doom 3 engine is capable of. ATM the maps are having to be kept to a smallish size to make sure most people can play them, in a couple of years time we'll probably see the kind of monster maps that came with RA3 (the castle map in Q3 bought my computer to a virtual standstill at the time)

Post by **TwR|Slice** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:47 pm

nomadimage i have the same system as u and get 35-44 FPS at this spot (my GPU is a 9600XT) what did u get ?

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:29 pm

NO WAY SHOULD I BE GETTING 37 FPS AT LOW IN A TIME DEMO... AND ONLY 36FPS AT HIGH IN A TIME DEMO ON A X850 PRO!!!!!!!

NO WAY!

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:31 pm

Video card is likely fine man, your CPU is just a bit of a bottle neck for it.

And also easy with the caps:

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:36 pm

A 2.8 p4 should not be that much of a bottleneck.... so your telling me I should be getting 37fps on low with a 2.8ghz p4, 1 gig ram, x850 pro?

Post by **TwR|Slice** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:38 pm

ok i think i found the reason for those bad FPS ... you can test ist on ur own ...
Start a server and walk alittle bit around ... then open the console and what do u see ???
WARNING: loaded non-precached ...
and this hundreds of times ...
I think id forgot to build in the precache and now our machines must do this while gaming !
Now I'm trying to fix this with coimmands and i found 2

Code: Select all

image_useCache "1" #to set the cache on!
image_cacheMegs "100" #the size of the cache mine was 100

the default of "image_useCache" is 0 ... please report if u get more FPS !
Hope this is the remedy

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:40 pm

RedAlley wrote:A 2.8 p4 should not be that much of a bottleneck.... so your telling me I should be getting 37fps on low with a 2.8ghz p4, 1 gig ram, x850 pro?

likely, what model P4?

Shaft has a close system (slightly more CPU, slightly less video), this may be a driver issue ATI will address fairly soon. You card is probably just fine.

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:41 pm

Use cache is on.... cache megs is set at 256.

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:43 pm

Let me remind you the minimum specs for a cpu are 2.0ghz. Ram min is 512mb and the lowest ATI video card is a 9700.

I'm am not happy... FEAR runs great:around 50fps with everything on high. Far Cry/ Half Life2 all run great on high.

Post by **TwR|Slice** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:47 pm

ok i boostet my Cache to 512 but nothing happend ... but the warning is still there ... hope i get this fixed

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:52 pm

hmmm...q4 runs way better on my system comapred to fear...

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:54 pm

I just ran a config that made the texture worse than quake2 and I ran a time demo from ggl and I got 36 fps. Something is not right.

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:56 pm

You've upgraded your video card recently right?
So did you have a nvidia card before?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:57 pm

lol...i am max on 60 at all times...shitty system too..

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:01 pm

I upgraded a X850 PRO from a Radeon 9800 Pro... I did a complete reinstall of windows before I installed the x850 Pro. Guys you have no idea how frustrating this is.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:03 pm

nix the ati...well whats ur cpu?

Post by **TwR|Slice** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:04 pm

no i set image_cacheMegs to 512
but now i'm really sure that the preload/cache is the problem
i typed "com_showMemoryUsage 1" in and every time i see new things(like models,weapons or textures) my RAM Usage rises for a second though the average ram-usage is 0 ... it must be fixable ... give me some minutes

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:05 pm

RedAlley wrote:I upgraded a X850 PRO from a Radeon 9800 Pro... I did a complete reinstall of windows before I installed the x850 Pro. Guys you have no idea how frustrating this is.

Indeed.

Everythign has up to date Drivers and all that good stuff?

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:07 pm

My cpu is a 2.8ghz p4 ht... but don't you tell me thats bottlenecks my x850 pro and 1gig of ram to 37 fps on low.

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:08 pm

Bdw... yeah I have up to date sound car drivers, mb drivers, vid car drivers, etc. I think I might do another windows reinstall...

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:09 pm

RedAlley wrote:My cpu is a 2.8ghz p4 ht... but don't you tell me thats bottlenecks my x850 pro and 1gig of ram to 37 fps on low.

Again it could be. but no that much your right... :/
My Athlon XP is bottle necking my 6600GT, so... *shrug*

Ohhh! Do you have Windows XP SP2's DEP disabled?

Post by **RedAlley** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:12 pm

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:19 pm

RedAlley wrote:DEP?

Only thing coming to mind right now. It was added to XP with SP2.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352

I remember there being an issue with Q3 frame rates being lower with SP2, disabling DEP seemed to fix some of the problems…

Disable it thusly:

Open boot.ini (located in the root of disc C:\.)

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

should be changed to

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=AlwaysOff /fastdetect

restart

I don't get any difference but, it's worth a shot.