The fragging yard (DM version) a.k.a q4dm1

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:11 am

That version suits so much better as a Tourney map.. is it possible to make small adjustments for it?
Im thinking of the bloody Quade damage..remove that and add mega there instead... and make it playable in Tourney.

I've seen 1 new custom made map for Q4 over at Q4files.com.. so i guess its possible for a mapper to do this.

Anyone that wanna give it ago?
Thx in advanced.

Post by **MKJ** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:23 am

i think the tourney version is pretty good actually

provided i can play the damn tihng

Post by **brisk** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:25 am

I thought that at first, but I am used to the 1v1 layout now. Changing item layout layout for tourneys should be simplicity itself though.

Post by **DooMer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:46 am

1 armor in the middle of the map. lol.

Post by **Azer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:47 am

I really like the 1v1 version, but 1 armor just isn't enough.

Post by **MKJ** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:59 am

true, a red and a yellow armor wouldve been fun

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:22 am

Played the 1vs1 version constantly for the past 4-5 days.. its really good, but it misses something, like 1 more teleporter where u exit by LG, it should lead to the plasma.. or something.

anyway, i thought i should check out the DM version and one guy joined..so we started dueling and it was wicked fun actually.. you get more area to control and rail isent the big gun on the map anymore.. you also have a red armor and more teleporters.

This is the map fatal1ty played on Quakecon and anyone could try and get a frag on him competition thingy..

someone remove the quad and make it workable in tourney phu-lease.

Post by **DooMer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:17 pm

Yeah it is a better map for 1v1. The only bad thing is that theres too much armor. q4dm2 is probably my favorite for 1v1. That red one is also kinda cool. Over the edge had potential, but the item placement ruins it.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:44 pm

item placement ruined it? explain urself dillweed...

Post by **axbaby** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:53 pm

shouldn't be too hard to do

map files are in pak2 ..extract map ,rename map, edit the map ,replace items, compile

BAMMM

Post by **DooMer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:54 pm

Yeah, the armors and the MH are on one side of the map. I dont think the railgun is a big enough incentive to bother with that big ass room. They should have put an armor where the quad was, and removed the YA next to the MH.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:56 pm

thats the same item placement as the orginal edge...whats the problem? whoever keeps control of the ya/mega/lg room wins...fun...

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:03 pm

axbaby wrote:shouldn't be too hard to do

map files are in pak2 ..extract map ,rename map, edit the map ,replace items, compile

BAMMM

Sounds easy as hell... 2 problems though:
I dont know jackkshit about pak files, mapping, extracting or editing with D3/Q4 engine or Qradiant etc..

If its as easy as you say..maybe ya know someone that can do it?
Add mega where Quad is, make it selectable in Tourney, name it pro-q4dm1 and upload it on a map site.

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:07 pm

Freakaloin wrote:thats the same item placement as the orginal edge...whats the problem? whoever keeps control of the ya/mega/lg room wins...fun...

TBH the problem is the old water area, the new version just seems very unbalanced...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:09 pm

now its the old water area? so ur saying its too easy to get rail now?

Post by **DooMer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:14 pm

Actually, it might be ok. I played against some rookie, and it was easier than it should have been. He never really put pressure on the LG room, and that YA/MH is pretty hard to get to.

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:15 pm

Freakaloin wrote:now its the old water area? so ur saying its too easy to get rail now?

Its very easy to get the rail but it leaves you open for attack.

Its just the shape, the feel of that area. Unless your up high, your fucked, and have no cover.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:17 pm

wow..just like being stuck in the water...ur not making a good argument of why the map item placement has ruined it...in fact ur being kinda retarded...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:18 pm

wait...doomer..odium...wtf...whats the difference?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:36 pm

DooMer wrote:Actually, it might be ok. I played against some rookie, and it was easier than it should have been. He never really put pressure on the LG room, and that YA/MH is pretty hard to get to.

if u use the stairs and the wall u can easily get up to the armor fast...

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:39 pm

can i play the dm map in tourney with the damn quad then?
survivor says it might be: map q4dm1 g_gametype 1

is it?

Post by **Survivor** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:42 pm

Yeah, shove it all on me. I just remember you could force gametypes whatever the map in q3 so maybe also in q4.

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:44 pm

Survivor wrote:Yeah, shove it all on me. I just remember you could force gametypes whatever the map in q3 so maybe also in q4.

Ment no harm..

Post by **Survivor** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:45 pm

I'm just annoyed, school tomorrow

Post by **MKJ** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:06 pm

i think the gametypes arent defined by numbers anymore

instead its summat like g_gametype "tournament" or something gay like htat