Firefly

Post by **Grudge** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:30 pm

So, I just saw the first episode. Pretty good. At first I thought this western/sci-fi mix would be kinda dorky, but it works pretty well. I guess I'll be spending the rest of the afternoon watching the rest of the first season.

Am I wrong, or did they only make one season? (plus the movie)

Post by **Pauly** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:31 pm

It's an excellent series.

Post by **RRROOOAAARRR** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:28 pm

riddla wrote:I hope they figure out a decent way to bring the series back to TV, although after the movie it wont quite be the same...

Well, there'll be two less cast members, for starters...

...and Firefly (and the movie) rocked. Here's to them bringing it back.

Post by **Don Carlos** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:32 pm

Your not round enough sir

Post by **glossy** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:33 pm

They just mentioned it on the ExtraLife podcast i'm listening to, but i've never heard of it.

there is some random english anime show on SBS on thursday nights which talks about terrorism and i think it's hilarious.

Post by **dnoyc** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:00 pm

riddla wrote:They aired 11 before cancellation, but made 14. If you've got the DVD set watch the extras, they explain the whole FOX debacle.

they aired 9.

Post by **Foo** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:30 pm

Fox networks is all about cancelling good shows.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:20 am

welp just finished watching the movie. Praps a bit heavy on the cheese at times but otherwise i thought it was brilliant.

i'm really glad i watched the series first tho... the series threw you into the universe without spoonfeeding you its history or that of its characters. You slowly got to know it.

the movie added some depth to the story while continuing the plot that the series started.

Post by **Geebs** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:42 am

I've read a bit about the premises of the plot and it sounds like the sort of thing you need to be a trekkie to enjoy. Am I right?

--- not a trekkie

Post by **Dek** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:32 pm

Geebs wrote:I've read a bit about the premises of the plot and it sounds like the sort of thing you need to be a trekkie to enjoy. Am I right?

--- not a trekkie

nope.

Post by **Ryoki** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:41 pm

I saw most of one episode and decided it wasn't for me.

Post by **Deathshroud** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:41 pm

I've got the first 2 discs of this show queued up on Netflix. I'm looking foward to checkin em out!

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:45 pm

i skimmed over the first ep... i'm going to sit down tonight and watch em..

btw, they only aried 9 ep's?!

Post by **Doombrain** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:46 pm

How come the film was called serenity? I saw the film and really liked it.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:47 pm

NO clue, But the first ep is known as serenity.

Post by **chiQ** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:34 pm

I'm rationing Firefly to myself, and then when I've watched them all I'm going to see Serenity. I can't believe they canned this series. Joss Whedon is a freaking genius.

Post by **Pauly** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:41 pm

chiQ wrote: I can't believe they canned this series. Joss Whedon is a freaking genius.

I have been saying this for years. Years!

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:21 pm

is buffy even half as good as firefly? the thing that blew me away in firefly was the writing - it was almost poetic at times.

Post by **Pauly** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:30 pm

The early seasons of Buffy are just really enjoyable fluff. It aint Shakespeare. There are some classic episodes that are written and directed by Whedon, but basically by season 5 it was getting a little shit. If you ever get a chance, download the episode called 'Hush'. It's excellent.

Angel was also very good, but both suffered by being restrcited by a TV network and having to appeal to a younger audience, whereas Firefly was more adult and as a result, far better.

Post by **chiQ** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:31 pm

[xeno]Julios wrote:is buffy even half as good as firefly? the thing that blew me away in firefly was the writing - it was almost poetic at times.

Buffy is more slapstick/silly, and contextually very different. I'm not sure you can compare the two at all really. I love both, but for different reasons. The only consistent traits across both universes is the humour, the solid characterisations, and the escapist element. Other than that it's present day Ca with monsters vs. space in the vague future.

And yes, a lot of the scripting is brilliant.

Post by **Grudge** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:50 pm

I saw an episode of Angel last week (the only one I've seen) and it was pure shit. Any Firefly episode is ages ahead.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:59 am

jesus! 1hour 40 min first ep!

that was a movie within itsself! i can only think of the movie only being another ep!

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:13 am

no the movie's quite different from the episodes. It's got more of a complete narrative than each episode.

Post by **neh** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:09 am

really enjoyed the film - shame the series was canned - presumably it didnt havae enough teenage angst or someshit

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:23 am

comment from imdb:

As with BtVS, the world is divided into people who get Firefly and people who don't. In this series Joss Whedon created one of the most realistic post-war visions of the future ever committed to tape, that at the same time spoke about yesterday and today. Maybe a little too much today for its own good.

The series is anti-corporate, anti-government and, while it takes the stand that some things are worth fighting for, it is largely anti-war. No wonder FOX did everything in its power to kill it off, including airing episodes out of order, skipping weeks after airing only three eps and, inevitably canceling the show without even airing episodes 12, 13 and 14 (out of 15). This was particularly damaging, as Firefly had a greater sense of ongoing plot than any other Whedon series in its first year. Viewers were left wondering, on more than one occasion, when a character would reference something we hadn't seen yet.

The backstage dramatics aside, Firefly is intelligent and, like Buffy, mythic - except this time Whedon is dealing with the myth of America: the Frontier, the Civil War, the rise of the Corporation, etc . . .

Firefly is a demanding show. It asks its audience to appreciate the shades of grey in its characters' moral scale. The villains are not comfortingly dressed as an alien race. In 500 years mankind will still be its own worst enemy. Technology will be in the hands of a privileged few, and others will in "The Black" - Whedon's frontier third world - where it is possible to exist without the interference (or benefit) of civilization and government. Things will be dirty, and used. Firefly creates a universe that almost totally opposes that of (that bastion of television sci-fi) Star Trek: its Federation-like central power (the Alliance) is interpreted as being oppressive and dystopic. We are on the side of those who resisted (like the Maqui) and lost.

The acting is strong, the writing as excellent, funny and moving as on any Whedon show, and the effects and sets create a consistent, believable world. It is a shame the series didn't have a more hospitable environment in which to grow and become all it could have been.