Web design...

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:13 am

What books can you recommend that would be good in learning web design. I'm also talking PHP,etc.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:18 am

honestly, most of the html books are the same thing... just different author.
and with most programming language books its pretty much better to just goto the bookstore and flip through a few.
then pick the one that you like the best.
since they will all have the same information, just presented differently for different learning styles.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:20 am

I want to redesign my brother-in-law's website and also want to add a shopping cart. Need to design one for my sister also and also add a shopping cart.

Post by **PhoeniX** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:25 am

I recommend http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/ as the shopping cart. It's free.

Post by **4days** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:25 am

easier to look stuff up online, print it out if you have to.

off the top of my head:

http://www.php.net/docs.php
http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/css ... index.html
http://solidox.org/index.php?w=module:a ... view,id:11 (was looking at it a minute ago)
http://www.w3schools.com

got a few decent reference links at home, will post them up later if it's any help.

if you're just starting - then don't get into any bad habits. learn css NOW without arsing around with deprecated html tags. use an editor with syntax highlighting rather than an wysiwyg interface.

edit: just hit refresh and saw what you're planning - use a reliable out-of-the-box script (oscommerce/agora are okay) if you want to do shopping carts and so on.

Post by **4days** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:26 am

PhoeniX wrote:I recommend http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/ as the shopping cart. It's free.

keen

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:49 pm

PhoeniX wrote:I recommend http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/ as the shopping cart. It's free.

I'll have a good look at that, thanks.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:13 pm

Going to have to learn about image design also.

Post by **denzii** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:14 pm

http://www.oswd.org

This site was turned on to me by someone here.

Has a bunch of cool web templates.

edit: oops

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:38 pm

hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems

Post by **losCHUNK** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:48 pm

sirstrongbad wrote:hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems

thumbing through the book ? :P

Post by **Pauly** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:01 pm

You need a degree in nerdism

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:06 pm

losCHUNK wrote:
sirstrongbad wrote:hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems
thumbing through the book ? :P

thumbing through the book? sometimes. those cookbooks have solutions for a lot of everyday issues that developers face. if you're looking for a login script, for example, the PHP Cookbook has examples that you can use. if you're trying to figure out how to build a tab-based navigation system in CSS, the CSS Cookbook has code examples for that, too.

all in all, i think they're great books to help get a person up and running quickly.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:07 pm

Pauly wrote:You need a degree in nerdism

already have one. i'm a recent graduate of the IU School of Informatics. doesn't get much "nerdier" than that.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:08 pm

Thanks SSB. Will check those out.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:09 pm

np, sir

Post by **mik0rs** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:27 pm

sirstrongbad wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
sirstrongbad wrote:hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems
thumbing through the book ? :P
thumbing through the book? sometimes. those cookbooks have solutions for a lot of everyday issues that developers face. if you're looking for a login script, for example, the PHP Cookbook has examples that you can use. if you're trying to figure out how to build a tab-based navigation system in CSS, the CSS Cookbook has code examples for that, too.

all in all, i think they're great books to help get a person up and running quickly.

Got to agree, most of the books O'Reilly put out are good quality. The only exception to that was "Programming ASP.NET" which I've got, the rest have been great.