Is Q4 Modding simular to Q3?

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Post by glossy »

HisHighness wrote:Hmmmm, I'd like to start a poll in this thread:

Do you think "AnthonyJa" and "Timbo" could have sounded any more like assholes there?

1. Yes, they could have done a bit better.
2. No, they sounded like complete assholes.

Vote Early, and Vote Often!
Timbo is oldschool and knows more than your mother, father, uncle and grandfather combined, cubed, and multiplied by a billion or so. As such, he can say whatever he likes and you will nod and agree with him. Understand what he's saying (along with the rest of the people that are smarter than you) and thank him for the knowledge he imparts. Without people like him, this forum becomes a mess of unanswered questions.
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Post by neh »

the final version of msvc express edition is free if downloaded between now (its currently available - goto http://msdn.microsoft.com and follow the many obvious banners) ..

its actually no longer buggy as hell and has a tonne of useful IDE features that will no doubt help greatly
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Post by torhu »

Is it true that only the Team edition of msvc 2005 has got a profiler? That sucks. :(

Maybe I'll stick with msvc 6 pro for q3 stuff, then.
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Post by ^misantropia^ »

Cygwin and gprof? I think MinGW also comes with gprof included.
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Post by AnthonyJa »

torhu wrote:Is it true that only the Team edition of msvc 2005 has got a profiler? That sucks. :(

Maybe I'll stick with msvc 6 pro for q3 stuff, then.
You may find that the all new "Enterprise Profiling Tool" is in addition to existing profiling stuff. For one thing, all articles I've seen about it are talking about the CLR, and .NET apps - not natice C/C++.
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Post by torhu »

AnthonyJa wrote:You may find that the all new "Enterprise Profiling Tool" is in addition to existing profiling stuff. For one thing, all articles I've seen about it are talking about the CLR, and .NET apps - not natice C/C++.
It says here that only the team system has got 'code profiling':

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/produ ... fault.aspx

But an older version of that table says that the pro edition has got it too, and so does a feature overview I saw. So I guess they changed their minds, and decided to make people pay more for this feature.

As for using gprof, I'd really rather not use a different compiler when profiling. And there's no Windows IDE for mingw or cygwin that comes close to msvc's usability and feature set. And please don't mention Dev-C++, I tried it couple of years ago.
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