Now THIS is a V8

Post by **losCHUNK** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:01 pm

vauxhall rofl, worst cars ever

think the only thing i like of theres was the carlton LOTUS

although the monaro looks pretty cool

Post by **Doombrain** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:03 pm

Lol, fucking hell. Look at the quality here
Volkswagen
Skoda
Seat
Bentley (& Rolls-Royce)
Audi
Bugatti
Lamborghini

Then look at this shower of shite

General Motors
Cadillac
Chevrolet
Pontiac
Buick
Oldsmobile
Saturn
Opel
Vauxhall
Saab
Holden
Isuzu
Fiat

Post by **losCHUNK** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:05 pm

DB man watch out for vauxhalls, theyre fast as fuck mang

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Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:06 pm

Youre right..lets compare 100k cars to 20k cars that 98% of the world drives.

Post by **Doombrain** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:11 pm

losCHUNK wrote:DB man watch out for vauxhalls, theyre fast as fuck mang

[lvlshot]http://www.migweb.co.uk/gallery/data/501/45gaznova1.jpg[/lvlshot]

you knows it

Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:11 pm

Im not trying to say that America doesnt have their fair share of shit cars. Im saying you get what you pay for. If youre looking to spend 40-50k on an Audi, you can find somthing just as nice that isnt european made. My car has been great so far, and i have no regrets buying it over an audi or an acura. Laugh at Vauxhalls all you want, you still cant compare Audi's and Bmw's, to cheap cars that everyong can afford. My point was, that GM and Toyota and the other giants might have thier fair share of shit cars, but their cars are everywhere, they must be doing somthing right.

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:15 pm

i actually saw quite a few buicks when i was in shanghai. everything else was volkswagon tho, all the cabs are santanas.

Post by **Turbine** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:51 pm

AH Europe, the land of where everyone drives a BMW like Civics, I lived there once.

Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:05 pm

Tell me about it, when I was in Europe the cabbys were driving nice benz's.

Post by **losCHUNK** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:19 pm

shaft wrote:Im not trying to say that America doesnt have their fair share of shit cars. Im saying you get what you pay for. If youre looking to spend 40-50k on an Audi, you can find somthing just as nice that isnt european made. My car has been great so far, and i have no regrets buying it over an audi or an acura. Laugh at Vauxhalls all you want, you still cant compare Audi's and Bmw's, to cheap cars that everyong can afford. My point was, that GM and Toyota and the other giants might have thier fair share of shit cars, but their cars are everywhere, they must be doing somthing right.

yer, theyre making the money back selling parts for the cars

Post by **hax103** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:58 pm

Doombrain wrote:fucking lol. everyone know yanks car are built like shite by german car, i mean a good car

Don't be so bitter GZ.

Alot of euro cars aren't made with such high quality these days. While Mercedes (I think) still has a good rep, TVR & Jag & Citroen, etc. are not built ummm at the same enduring level

More Clarkson: "What's not so good is that he doesn't seem to have done anything at all about quality. The single biggest bugbear in TVR's past. ..I fear for TVR, I really do, because they need to spend their money on electrics that work, and wipers that stay put, rather than an endless array of pointless new models"

Euro cars. American cars. LOL. Both prolly get owned in the Quality/cost department by the Japs!

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:02 pm

Doombrain wrote:This whole Europe Vs USA and cars thing is stupid.

Fact A: The USA has made a ‘few’ nice cars. The latest of which have borrowed European ideas and technology.

Fact B: Europe has been pumping out the worlds best cars since the invention of the engine.

It’s a fact kids and I’m afraid you’re all going to have to live with it.

Yeah, while the US was building the Shelby Cobra, The GT500, and Ferrari-stomping Corvettes, England was building Jags that couldn't stay out of the fucking shop.

Post by **hax103** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:07 pm

The funny thing is that the British usually do think the Jag is a quality, enduring kinda car.

Nightshade wrote:
Doombrain wrote:This whole Europe Vs USA and cars thing is stupid.

Fact A: The USA has made a ‘few’ nice cars. The latest of which have borrowed European ideas and technology.

Fact B: Europe has been pumping out the worlds best cars since the invention of the engine.

It’s a fact kids and I’m afraid you’re all going to have to live with it.
Yeah, while the US was building the Shelby Cobra, The GT500, and Ferrari-stomping Corvettes, England was building Jags that couldn't stay out of the fucking shop.

Post by **losCHUNK** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:09 pm

if your gunna buy a jag do it properly

buy a rover and write it off

Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:15 pm

Rover, Aston Martin and Jag were bought by Ford.

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:18 pm

hax103 wrote:The funny thing is that the British usually do think the Jag is a quality, enduring kinda car.

Nightshade wrote:
Doombrain wrote:This whole Europe Vs USA and cars thing is stupid.

Fact A: The USA has made a ‘few’ nice cars. The latest of which have borrowed European ideas and technology.

Fact B: Europe has been pumping out the worlds best cars since the invention of the engine.

It’s a fact kids and I’m afraid you’re all going to have to live with it.
Yeah, while the US was building the Shelby Cobra, The GT500, and Ferrari-stomping Corvettes, England was building Jags that couldn't stay out of the fucking shop.

I think that they are quality vehicles, well, except for the Ford influenced shit. They used to be famous for being tempermental, bitchy, unreliable crap. Pretty to look at, though.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:26 pm

This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:42 pm

this is the best toxicbug topic ever, and its funny that he got shunned from the middle of the first page...

Post by **hax103** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:53 pm

ToxicBug wrote:This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.

Actually, Topgear is on right NOW and they are covering the Audio RS4. Jeremy Clarkson is saying that the RS4 is the "George Bush" of sedans - its a small car that makes you want to think its big and impressive

Brilliant timing ala Clarkson

Post by **Deathshroud** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:57 pm

ToxicBug wrote:This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.

You have yet to impress anyone. I wanna know why you think this car does anything more than suck air and gas.

Post by **hate** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:03 pm

only people i see driving faggoty european cars

are faggoty americans

niche?

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:04 pm

ToxicBug wrote:This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.

My god, you really are a fucking idiot, aren't you? You know, Audi has made a technologically impressive engine. Good for them. You are so far removed from understanding anything about why it's impressive or anything else about automotive powerplants that it's scary. And your huge leap from 'no 100hp/liter engine' to 'years behind' is mind boggling.
This is why you don't see me posting arguments about deep philosophical issues. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW A FUCKING THING ABOUT THEM. Just because you read car magazines and watch Top Gear doesn't make you a fucking expert, dummy.

Post by **Pantsman** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:07 pm

this is the part where i chime in and say audi's are ugly too.

Post by **Bdw3** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:08 pm

Doombrain wrote:I think most people would take the audi over the yank car anyday.

lol, fact.

I'm no huge fan of American branded autos... but...

That girly Audi or a Vett.....

Fuck no.... give me the Vett!

Already have a people hauler that will last ages longer than an Audi anyway. (Toyota > * quality)
Hell even if we didn't I'll still rather have a Vett.

Post by **Turbine** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:34 pm

Corvette's are truly ugly car's.
They lack any style and certainly, class.

They look as if thou they where made for people with short dicks; to compensate for their lack of.

American and European car markets differ greatly when it comes to te actual look of the car, the European designers carry more class in their cars, because that is what Europeans want. Where did Ludwig van Beethoven and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart come from?

A corvette is good looking only in a American society and values sort of way.