The hardest firewall ever made. Period.

Post by **Underpants?** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:57 pm

Here's something worth a look, an unbreakable OS based on openBSD. It's mounted read-only with the benefit of pptp vpn, and a caching nameserver.
http://www.jtan.com/jtanoss/cdboot/

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:16 pm

Nothing connected to a network and powered up is unbreakable but it looks pretty cool. Thanks for the link.

Post by **Foo** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:28 pm

Tormentius wrote:Nothing connected to a network and powered up is unbreakable but it looks pretty cool. Thanks for the link.

That's rhetoric.

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:42 pm

Foo wrote: That's rhetoric.

Excuse me? There's no rhetoric involved. If a system is connected to a network it is breakable...period. It doesn't matter who the vendor is (Microsoft, Sun, Novell, a Linux distro, whoever), software is never perfect.

On another note if you feel like stepping up why don't you go and post a response to the browser thread in GD.

:icon26:

Post by **Foo** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:39 pm

Corruptable in memory, not corruptable across a quick reload.

Hence we come down to semantics I guess.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:23 am

the only safe computer is one that's unplugged and stacked in a warehouse.

btw, nice find Undies.

Post by **raw** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:14 am

Tormentius wrote:
Foo wrote: That's rhetoric.
Excuse me? There's no rhetoric involved. If a system is connected to a network it is breakable...period. It doesn't matter who the vendor is (Microsoft, Sun, Novell, a Linux distro, whoever), software is never perfect.

On another note if you feel like stepping up why don't you go and post a response to the browser thread in GD.

:icon26:

) Carved.

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Post by **Foo** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:16 am

admin

Post by **raw** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:18 am

Yes, how observant but this is about you getting checked, not me.

)

Post by **Foo** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:19 am

Head
Nigger
In
Cognito

Post by **raw** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:26 am

Not only have you failed with your technical opinion, you've failed at humor. Congrats :icon14:

Post by **Foo** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:28 am

Humour?

The point was coming into one of the serious forums and posting flames/trolls results in a load of shit for other people to step around or clear up. Admin.

Get fucked.

Post by **raw** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:32 am

Isn't it time for you to resign again?

)

I post here lately more than anywhere and I wasn't here to start with you. I simply laughed at how Tormentius put you in place. If I wanted to troll you, you'd have known it.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:33 am

What are you doing with yourself lately anyway? I get the sense that you're not gaming much

Post by **raw** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:35 am

I have a new job which keeps me very busy. With the job, personal fitness, and fishing I don't have much online time as I used to.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:52 am

Foo wrote:What are you doing with yourself lately anyway? I get the sense that you're not gaming much

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:17 am

BAck on topic,

How does this compare with Smoothewall?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:43 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:BAck on topic,

How does this compare with Smoothewall?

back on topic:

that's a good question. i'm more interested in the live cd bit for a dedicated box sans hdd.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:09 am

Humm, that might make it interesting,

*looks at old celeron box *
Humm
*looks at Linksys router*

Bah, its not worth it. :/

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:58 am

not worth what? tossing in a cd, rebooting, and configuring to taste? :\

i'ma try on a p166 i have in the garage

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:48 pm

Give us an update when you get her running.

Post by **Underpants?** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:53 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:BAck on topic,

How does this compare with Smoothewall?

smoothwall derives itself from linux, this is an openbsd deployment. OpenBSD is known for its rock-solid security whereas linux runs neck and neck with MS for the most exploits in a single distro.
By unbreakable, I mean no known exploits for BSD in over 3 years, which is a relative use of the term, I suppose. Add that to a read-only hard disk-less system, and in my opinion, it's harder than a nokia-based checkpoint firewall. Cisco PIX would be debatable, but as we all know a firewall is only as hard as it's underlying OS.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:56 pm

Hummm, i dident know that linux was tied with them.. i know certan distro's are Fucked out out of there mind once installed. ( *cough* mandrake *cough* )

Hummm,
i might need to look into BSD now

thanks for the heads up Underpants, my lack of knowlage of Other O/s's is a little aparent

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:07 pm

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:08 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i know certan distro's are Fucked out out of there mind once installed.

again in English, please.