For a smart guy that's the stupidest thing I think I've ever heard you say. Someone was shot and killed for making a threat. The whole thing reeks of paranoia to me.tnf wrote:Also, one could say that, prior to the planes being hijacked, the odds of some arab guys with little boxcutters causing a couple wars was rather nil....Jackal wrote:Also it should be considered that the passengers had all already been screened. The chances the guy actually had a bomb were rather nil.
just saying that hindsight is always 20/20...but when you are in the heat of the moment situation that may be life or death for many people, sometimes you're forced to act in a manner that minimizes risk for the maximum # of people. I doubt the protocol that the air marhsalls follow when someone on the plane says they have a bomb is to think to themselves "he's already been screened...so there really isn't much to worry about."
Why has no one mentioned this shooting?
That's what happens, though. If someone is confronted by cops, says he has a gun, and starts reaching into his coat, he's going to get shot, too.Jackal wrote:For a smart guy that's the stupidest thing I think I've ever heard you say. Someone was shot and killed for making a threat. The whole thing reeks of paranoia to me.tnf wrote:Also, one could say that, prior to the planes being hijacked, the odds of some arab guys with little boxcutters causing a couple wars was rather nil....Jackal wrote:Also it should be considered that the passengers had all already been screened. The chances the guy actually had a bomb were rather nil.
just saying that hindsight is always 20/20...but when you are in the heat of the moment situation that may be life or death for many people, sometimes you're forced to act in a manner that minimizes risk for the maximum # of people. I doubt the protocol that the air marhsalls follow when someone on the plane says they have a bomb is to think to themselves "he's already been screened...so there really isn't much to worry about."
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I would have kicked the guy's head in.Nightshade wrote:Just curious here Jackal, what would you have done?
Apparently the guy just wanted off the plane/entry way. He kept telling one of the airport staff he needed off and when they wouldn't immediately let him go he said he had a bomb. At least that's what they just said on the news.
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Lol, felonious running. "WE THOUGHT HE HAD SCISSORS!"
I ask because I myself don't know what I would have done, I can only speculate. That's all any of us can do, because we weren't there. I can see reasons why they would have shot him, but if they were close enough to restrain him and could see his hands, then I would suggest that perhaps the shooting was not necessary.
I ask because I myself don't know what I would have done, I can only speculate. That's all any of us can do, because we weren't there. I can see reasons why they would have shot him, but if they were close enough to restrain him and could see his hands, then I would suggest that perhaps the shooting was not necessary.
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Someone shot and killed for making a threat happens all over the place I'd guess. So then, praytell, when should the shooting take place - AFTER THE THREAT IS CARRIED OUT? The luxury of waiting to see if it is a fake threat or not isn't something that an air marshall always has.Jackal wrote:For a smart guy that's the stupidest thing I think I've ever heard you say. Someone was shot and killed for making a threat. The whole thing reeks of paranoia to me.tnf wrote:Also, one could say that, prior to the planes being hijacked, the odds of some arab guys with little boxcutters causing a couple wars was rather nil....Jackal wrote:Also it should be considered that the passengers had all already been screened. The chances the guy actually had a bomb were rather nil.
just saying that hindsight is always 20/20...but when you are in the heat of the moment situation that may be life or death for many people, sometimes you're forced to act in a manner that minimizes risk for the maximum # of people. I doubt the protocol that the air marhsalls follow when someone on the plane says they have a bomb is to think to themselves "he's already been screened...so there really isn't much to worry about."
You say you have a bomb, and then you run away from the air marshalls who are trying to stop you, towards other people who, as far as they know, you may be planning to blow up...
hmm...what to do on that one?
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I just recently started a job at JFK airport and I will just say that airport security does kinda suck. Now I'm not an expert on the technology that they use or how flawed it is or secure it is or whatever but it just 'seems' like it isn't as good as it should be.
As for shooting the guy, who gives a shit? He should know better than to fuckin say he has a god damn bomb on board no matter how bad he wants to get off the fucking plane. Death is a little extreme, but that's America for you, right?
As for shooting the guy, who gives a shit? He should know better than to fuckin say he has a god damn bomb on board no matter how bad he wants to get off the fucking plane. Death is a little extreme, but that's America for you, right?