Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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Canis
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Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

Post by Canis »

Check it: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

And I thought I was the only one....sheesh!
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Post by Freakaloin »

i think he is just making my same point i was making the other day...the holocaust has been greatly exaggerated in order to gain sympathy for the jews...on that account...he is 100% correct
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Post by Freakaloin »

plus he is baiting the us and israel...he knows russia has his back...the only question is...do the americans and israel know this about russia?
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Post by Tsakali_ »

Freakaloin wrote:i think he is just making my same point i was making the other day...the holocaust has been greatly exaggerated in order to gain sympathy for the jews...on that account...he is 100% correct
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Freakaloin wrote:plus he is baiting the us and israel...he knows russia has his back...the only question is...do the americans and israel know this about russia?
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Post by Freakaloin »

fuck u...
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So... Who Wants Smasht?
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Post by So... Who Wants Smasht? »

The Semites want you to believe that they were the only ones killed in the Holocaust.

They've changed history books to read that way. That's why school books focus on the Jews instead of all the people persecuted by the Nazis.

It happened… Only about 1/3rd of it the way they say. Regardless, it's still horrible and the fact that they exaggerate it makes them just as sick as the Nazis themselves.
So... Who Wants Smasht?
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Post by Freakaloin »

iran is doing a great job of goading the west...will the west fall into the trap? prolly...
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So... Who Wants Smasht? wrote:It happened… Only about 1/3rd of it the way they say. Regardless, it's still horrible and the fact that they exaggerate it makes them just as sick as the Nazis themselves.
I can't help but agree with that.
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Freakaloin wrote:iran is doing a great job of goading the west...will the west fall into the trap? prolly...
With our current leaders in charge? LOL. I can't believe we haven't given them free air time on our allies' airwaves to help them do the fomenting.
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Post by R00k »

And if it wasn't already obvious what he was trying to do:

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/12/12/ ... iend.shtml

"Putin Calls Russia Defender of Islamic World"

Will our fearless idiot take the bait?
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Ahhh gg russia. You dont fuck with a crazy dude with a gun who has pulled the trigger twice, its just not smart...
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in our current state i think russia would kick our asses in a war...
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So... Who Wants Smasht? wrote:The Semites want you to believe that they were the only ones killed in the Holocaust.

They've changed history books to read that way. That's why school books focus on the Jews instead of all the people persecuted by the Nazis.

It happened… Only about 1/3rd of it the way they say. Regardless, it's still horrible and the fact that they exaggerate it makes them just as sick as the Nazis themselves.
It was hardly difficult to discover how gypsies, various political prisoners, homosexuals etc were wiped out in the camps too. The Jews were in the majority.

Even if they intentially fiddled the numbers it hardly makes them as bad as the Nazi's does it, you fucking wally. They're not all exactly endorsing/carrying mass genocide even if the whole Zionism thing is decidedly dodgy.
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Freakaloin wrote:in our current state i think russia would kick our asses in a war...
Sure but do you want a war either way? Win or lose people die, stuff is broken and money is wasted.
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but the illuminati always wins...
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Post by MidnightQ4 »

lol bs.
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no really...
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Re: Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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Canis wrote:Check it: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

And I thought I was the only one....sheesh!
The United States, Israel and the European Commission -- along with individual European countries -- have condemned the remark.

"What the Iranian president has shown us today is that he is clearly outside the international consensus, he is clearly outside international norms and international legitimacy, and in so doing he has shown the Iranian government for what it is -- a rogue regime opposed to peace and stability and a threat to all its neighboring countries," Regev said.


here we go again...


Ok so a question for all of you anti Iraq war guys, what would you recommend we do here? I guess you will all say nothing.
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Freakaloin wrote:no really...
heh you guys snuck all those posts in while I was typing "lol bs". lol. so wasn't intended as a reply to your post sorry.
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Re: Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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Ok so a question for all of you anti Iraq war guys, what would you recommend we do here? I guess you will all say nothing.
what does iraq have to do with this for starters...secondly...do something about the iranian leader making a speech? no laws have been violated moron...
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Re: Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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MidnightQ4 wrote: Ok so a question for all of you anti Iraq war guys, what would you recommend we do here? I guess you will all say nothing.
Yeah thats exactly right. He has done nothing other than exercise free speech, which is something your country supposedly holds dear.
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Re: Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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MidnightQ4 wrote:
Canis wrote:Check it: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

And I thought I was the only one....sheesh!
The United States, Israel and the European Commission -- along with individual European countries -- have condemned the remark.

"What the Iranian president has shown us today is that he is clearly outside the international consensus, he is clearly outside international norms and international legitimacy, and in so doing he has shown the Iranian government for what it is -- a rogue regime opposed to peace and stability and a threat to all its neighboring countries," Regev said.


here we go again...


Ok so a question for all of you anti Iraq war guys, what would you recommend we do here? I guess you will all say nothing.
This would have never escalated to the point it has if we had not been publicly questioning Iran's legitimacy and threatening them for the last 2 years.

What would I do? I think it's a lost cause right now, because no matter how good a plan we come up with, Bush would fuck it up by touching it.

But in a perfect world, we would make an agreement with Iran and Israel: Israel would declare its nukes, and begin disarming them; Iran would open up their nuclear power plants to allow western scientists to work in and monitor them (which Iran has already done, btw).

If Israel didn't have nukes, and we weren't threatening Iran, then Iran wouldn't have a problem allowing open monitoring of their facilities. Iran's biggest beef is the glaring double standard when it comes to Israel and the rest of the middle east, especially Iran.

What would you do? Go to war against Iran and Russia?
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Re: Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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Tormentius wrote:
MidnightQ4 wrote: Ok so a question for all of you anti Iraq war guys, what would you recommend we do here? I guess you will all say nothing.
Yeah thats exactly right. He has done nothing other than exercise free speech, which is something your country supposedly holds dear.
Well most americans like MidnightQ4 are gladdly giving up their rights and freedoms in the name of patriotism and security. Theres a quote there but I cant be fucked to look it up.

Fact is, round up all the people in the US who believe exactly what this guy was saying and arrest them before you start a war with an independant country.

Your right the US should do nothing more then write a nasty letter and then go back to ruining more Iraqi lives. :icon26:

rofl, 'what should we do' wtf are you talking about, its not like they declared war on the US ffs. IIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiidiot.
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Re: Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

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R00k wrote:
What would I do? I think it's a lost cause right now, because no matter how good a plan we come up with, Bush would fuck it up by touching it.
I think if it's a lost cause, it's because Iran have already set their mind to their agenda and are not willing to work something out.
But in a perfect world, we would make an agreement with Iran and Israel: Israel would declare its nukes, and begin disarming them; Iran would open up their nuclear power plants to allow western scientists to work in and monitor them (which Iran has already done, btw).
They have done this already? Must of missed that recent news.
If Israel didn't have nukes, and we weren't threatening Iran, then Iran wouldn't have a problem allowing open monitoring of their facilities.
so wait, they do have a problem with monitoring or not? you seem to be contradicting yourself.
Iran's biggest beef is the glaring double standard when it comes to Israel and the rest of the middle east, especially Iran.
and yet I don't see Israel saying they are going after Iran and want them moved to Siberia
What would you do? Go to war against Iran and Russia?
It is unfortunate that Russia is backing Iran. Otherwise I would say we do what we did with Iraq, which is wait it out, but if it comes to it we might have to remove the guys in power. If it comes to it meaning they are threatening to go to war with Israel or something then taking preemptive action is probalby the best way to avoid an even larger conflict if we wait for them to attack on their terms. Obviously this guy is all about this religious destiny crap, so who knows what he is capable of. Even his own people think he is out of control and talk about the need to restrain him.

With Russia for whatever reason feeling like they need to involve themselves in Iran's religious crusade, well that makes things a lot worse for trying to deal with the problem.

Also, notice how all of these countries are saying this is bad right now? Then if it ever comes that we need to do doing something they will change their tune just like with Iraq, well maybe this time Iran won't be able to buy them off like Iraq did.
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