Iran guilty of Holocaust denial!!!!

[jester!]

Your wrong fool. Words are cheap. Every state in the world will say "Thats not right dont say that." Its politics... :icon22:

We need rolleyes on the main selection for threads with this guy...

[MidnightQ4]

So you are saying they will say it but not back it up? So basically they are pussies?

[R00k]

n/m

[Tormentius]

So you are saying they will say it but not back it up? So basically they are pussies?

You're a fucking moron. Please do us all a favour and off yourself, preferably in a painful fashion.

[werldhed]

When this was first posted, I was about to make a post that said, "Some people here would consider this a direct threat to the US."

I didn't because I was lazy. Lo and behold!

As everyone here has already said, saying such a thing is not a threat. What should we "anti Iraq war" folks do about it? Nothing. Why should we?

And yes, condemning the statement is good politics. I'm going to say right now that I condemn the man for saying what he said. It doesn't mean I'm going to support a war in the future. Those two things are hardly mutually inclusive.

[[xeno]Julios]

Otherwise I would say we do what we did with Iraq, which is wait it out, but if it comes to it we might have to remove the guys in power. If it comes to it meaning they are threatening to go to war with Israel or something then taking preemptive action is probalby the best way to avoid an even larger conflict if we wait for them to attack on their terms.

that would be suicide:

http://www.exile.ru/2005-January-27/war_nerd.html

a few excerpts:

Everybody's asking me what'll happen if we attack Iran. To get a quick preview, just do what this guy in my eighth-grade class did: put a firecracker in your mouth, hold it between your front teeth, and light the fuse.

Your friends won't believe you'll go through with it. So when it blows up in your face, you'll expect them to be impressed. And you'll be surprised, just like this guy in junior high was surprised, when all you get is a perforated eardrum and a reputation as the biggest dumbass in the school.

Right now, Bush is standing there with a lit match and a big firecracker labeled "Iran" in his mouth. Except it's more like an M-80 or a whole stick of dynamite than a firecracker. Nobody believes he'll be dumb enough to light it, to actually attack Iran. Even the Iranians don't believe it; Khameini, their head Mullah, said last week "America is in no position to invade Iran."

Iran is scarier than Iraq in every way you can name. First of all, it's physically way bigger, three times the size of Iraq. The population is 65 million, nearly three times as many as Iraq. The Iranians are young, too. Their birthrate is way down now, around 2 kids per woman, but back in the Khomeini years it was one of the highest in the world. So right now, the Iranian population has a demographic profile that's a military planner's dream: not too many little kids to take care of, but a huge pool of fighting-age men -- about 18 million

Obviously this guy is all about this religious destiny crap, so who knows what he is capable of. Even his own people think he is out of control and talk about the need to restrain him.

you may as well be talking about bush here. Right?

I mean bush does view this war within a religious context right? And thousands of americans think he's out of control. Right?

So what's your point?

[MidnightQ4]

If he drops on nuke on Tel Aviv in 15 years don't say I didn't tell you so.

[GONNAFISTYA]

I would say we do what we did with Iraq, which is wait it out, but if it comes to it we might have to remove the guys in power.

First off your neocon ideas are utterly backwards if you think that it's up to you to "remove the guys in power". As has been told to you countless times by other members: It is this very attitude that has created this mess in the first place. You have no right to stand up on the world stage and say "The American way is the best way" when your way is obviously fucked in the head. Speaking of heads...give yours a shake.

If it comes to it meaning they are threatening to go to war with Israel or something then taking preemptive action is probalby the best way to avoid an even larger conflict if we wait for them to attack on their terms. Obviously this guy is all about this religious destiny crap, so who knows what he is capable of. Even his own people think he is out of control and talk about the need to restrain him.

Why don't you look up a little history and discover the fact that Isreal has previously bombed Iranian nuclear powerplants....right around the time they were to go online. This is pre-emptive striking in its most glaring example. And Iran pretty much restrained itself from blasting Isreal. Yeah...real rogue state that Iran is. Besides...with Isreal on the doorstep and the US ready to back them up...for Iran...it's called National Defense. And any country is entitled to it.

Then maybe - after reading some information that will make you uncomfortable with US history - you'd begin to see why this "religious crusade" is nothing more than a matter of national security....Iranian national security. And guess what? Iranian national security is not obligated to conform to American standards.

Also, notice how all of these countries are saying this is bad right now? Then if it ever comes that we need to do doing something they will change their tune just like with Iraq, well maybe this time Iran won't be able to buy them off like Iraq did.

Fuckin hell. "All these countries saying this is bad right now"?

"...if it ever comes that we need to do doing something they will change their tune just like they did with Iraq"?

Are you paying attention? Nobody except a few lapdogs supported the Iraq war before it started and there are definately not as many that support it now.

Pull your fuckin head out of Fox News.

Like the moronic neocons that have fucked up so many pillars of American politics you seem to feel that the arrogant hegemony of Rome will not befall you.

[GONNAFISTYA]

If he drops on nuke on Tel Aviv in 15 years don't say I didn't tell you so.

If you were ever wondering why I never really engage you in hammering down the walls of stupidity and the brainwashing of politics then here is a perfect example of why not.

It will undoubtedly be a waste of keystrokes.

[GONNAFISTYA]

So you are saying they will say it but not back it up? So basically they are pussies?

More hawkish bullshit. Limbaugh would probably hire you to carry his painkillers.

[werldhed]

If he drops on nuke on Tel Aviv in 15 years don't say I didn't tell you so.

Larf. In 15 years? Iranian presidents only serve a max of two terms. If Iran drops the bomb 15 years from now, it will have little to do with this guy.

[GONNAFISTYA]

HEY DON'T LET FACTS AND COMMON SENSE CLOUD YOUR JUDGEMENT!!!

THIS IRANIAN GUY IS CLEARLY EVIL AND MUST BE ASSASSINATED!!!

[jester!]

So you are saying they will say it but not back it up? So basically they are pussies?

You're a fucking moron. Please do us all a favour and off yourself, preferably in a painful fashion.

Basically Midnight your simply naive (deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment) to the point of being a joke. The world is not black and white like you and your government like to believe. Politics is politics, these people make a living saying one thing, doing another and giving the reach around to companies so they get funding next election, if you believe otherwise your just misguided.

How old are you anyway? It would be painful for me if your an adult and can have an impact on your country come next election...

[Geebs]

Lol at morons who think the Holocaust is the only time in history when jews have been ethnically cleansed.

[Imalawyer]

It never fucking happened get over it.

[Geebs]

Go to austria and say that

[So... Who Wants Smasht?]

in our current state i think russia would kick our asses in a war...

Never.

But, Russia, Iran, and China would have absolutely no problem.

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/London/Writ ... asion.html

[[xeno]Julios]

Lol at morons who think the Holocaust is the only time in history when jews have been ethnically cleansed.

or at the people who think jews are the only people to suffer mass cleansing.

[Underpants?]

i think he is just making my same point i was making the other day...the holocaust has been greatly exaggerated in order to gain sympathy for the jews...on that account...he is 100% correct

larf your footer :icon32:

yeah I pretty much agree with your thoughts on this one

[Canis]

Lol at morons who think the Holocaust is the only time in history when jews have been ethnically cleansed.

or at the people who think jews are the only people to suffer mass cleansing.

Oh but they were...

Seriously though, I think (not to belittle the holocaust at all) the Shylock's self-centered mindset is a prominent atmosphere surrounding the holocaust, which is a little off-putting. The folks just wont let it's significance be outdone.

[4days]

when did this midnightq4 muppet first show up?

was he registered before, or was his finding his way here one of the things that really sucked about quake 4?

[Canis]

October 18th, 2005....

[Doombrain]

fuck u...

hahaha ownT

[[xeno]Julios]

when did this midnightq4 muppet first show up?

was he registered before, or was his finding his way here one of the things that really sucked about quake 4?

at least he's articulate and seems to believe in what he says.

That's more than what can be said for many.

[seremtan]

this ahmedajadinaminethingy is smart enough to say what appeals to a load of iranians, but dumb enough not to realise everyone else is listening

rafsanjani used to make comments about nuking israel too

then again, brit DM geoff hoon threatened to nuke iraq in the run up to that war, so it's big threats from little men all round