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yeah, jews. A caricature of letsay, jew soldiers dropping boms with uncle sam written all over them.
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Captain Mazda wrote:Or jews for that matter.
Give it a break, ahmadenijad.
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lebomb wrote:And to scourge> Show me a caricature in a major US or European newspaper that ridicules christians.
lebomb wrote:hello??? That religious zealot Robertson calling for the assasination of hugo chavez? He's talking about killing a guy. Is that rational. Dont matter what your views of the dude (chavez) are. I wont tell ya my views of the president YOU have.
Pretty good example...

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Massive Quasars wrote:
Captain Mazda wrote:Or jews for that matter.
Give it a break, ahmadenijad.
let him keep going.. he'll get so mad that he'll kill himself suicide style some day
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Massive Quasars wrote:
Captain Mazda wrote:Or jews for that matter.
Give it a break, ahmadenijad.
Fuck you, zionist pig.
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whoa, that's pretty funny
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Re: hello? In case a christian fundamentalist or bush lover

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Nightshade wrote:Look at the Taliban, blowing up beautiful ancient Buddhist statues because they were "offensive to allah". That's a damn crock of shit.
Dude, America was founded at least partly by a bunch of Puritans. Their stock in trade at the time was defacing churches, because all of that gaudiness was offensive to god. You're descended from exactly the same sort of "fundamentalist religious nutters". (As am I)
Thanks for the history lesson, Admiral Irrelevant. Tell me something I don't know, preferably something germane.
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scourge34 wrote:Oh, how many virgins was it supposed to be? And how long could that last? Eternity? Lol. Who's the gullible religion?
I think its 40 virgins for each suicide man-bomb.
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http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/ ... 60204.html

Embassies set ablaze over caricature
Last Updated Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:05:45 EST
CBC News

Protests over editorial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad turned violent Saturday in the Syrian capital as demonstrators set fire to the Danish, Chilean and Swedish embassies.
man o man. do these people honestly expect the rest of the world to walk on pins and needles in the fear we "may" offend something islamic? maybe we should start teaching islam in our public schools so everyone will know what may incite a muslim into a fit of bloody rage.

if i have a muslim living down the street from me should i take him out now or wait for the day i may accidently offend him and he burns down my house and kills my family?
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Watched Gandhi a few days ago, and it really makes things obvious.

Set off a few car bombs, blow up a cafe in isreal, burn down some embassy, what do you do? Unite the world in their belief that muslims are little more then savage uneducated people with rage issues. Shit, why is it that several european countries reprinted the cartoon if not to point out that at least some of the population are sick of actions of muslims? Even worse these people are giving the US and allies excuses to invade these countries and save them from themselves. Iran is next I have no doubt, maybe not now but eventually.

Meanwhile a true humanitarian disaster is ignored in Darfur, and North Korea, but they wont be helped because there is little point when it comes to the American bottom line.

There are other ways to make a point known then to go out and prove that the sterotype is true, but no, keep on acting like psychos, its sure gotten the Islamic groups a lot of respect so far.

EDIT: That CBC article if great to. Gotta love how someone with some reason is fired and then arrested on charges of blasphemy. ROFL ANYONE?! Separation of church and state has to be one of the greatest ideas of all fucking time...
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There may be Christian radicals who overreact to all sorts of things, but they could never get away with anything like this. (They torched the Danish embassy in Syria.) People saying Christianity would react similarly are full of shit -- whoever it was a year or two ago made a play portraying Jesus as a homosexual and while there were some protests, I never even heard about the playwright/performers receiving death threats much less actually being physically threatened or attacked.

That said, the problem is not so much Islam (I don't think) as the Middle East. If the Christian zealots lived all together in a regressive, religiously-charged society where they made the laws and did as they pleased, I'm sure they would attempt this sort of stunt every time someone swore at Jesus too. But Christianity has mostly moved west, and as fucked up as some of the countries are over here we maintain law and order (in the secular sense) a bit better than Syria and Iran, methinks, so our religious nutters can't really get away with massive flag-burning demostrations. The last open KKK march was how many decades ago?

And for the people bringing Judaism into this, it's true that lots of people go on the defensive when someone breaks out the anti-Semitism, but I would say that is usually triggered politically and not religiously. Christians have Jesus's image to protect, Muslims have Muhammed and Ibrahim and whoever, but the Jews don't really have that same omg-you-insulted-our-religious-figurehead sort of personnage since it's harder to portray God in a specifically Jewish manner. The Jews usually just go apeshit when someone important criticizes Israel.

So yes, fuck all religious extremists, but fuck the middle eastern radical muslims most of all because they are the only ones (out of the big three, anyway) horribly oppressing people.
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this debate is silly. the orthodoxy of any religion suck. They justify their actions by claiming god supports them. i.e. fundamentalist christians shooting abortion doctors etc etc etc etc Islam is no worse than the others

This whole thing isn't about the cartoons either is it?
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I thought about the abortion doctor shooting argument, and it really doesn't apply here. The case can be made that the wackos that do that are seeking justice against a murderer, not retribution because someone portrayed god in a derogatory light.
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Indeed. With most strains of Christianity, the belief that whoever is opposing God will end up in hell is sufficient. Usually.

However with Islam that doesn't seem to be the logic. I would go so far as to say there is a religious incentive to any follower who seeks vengeance on those who attack Islam .
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Actually Jews get pissed when their actions in the west bank are compared to those of the nazis, like sticking palestinians into reservations(concentration camp-like facilities.) And yeah, Israel can fuck off too, why isnt there a palestinian state already too, if there is a jew state?
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That's pretty much the crux of that whole problem, innit?
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Israel is nothing but the US spy in the middle east.
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who gives a fuck about israel? news flash for ya, the western world despises what they do as well.

what does israel have to do with the danes or norwegians?
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They are often hated on by muslims? :dork:
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lebomb wrote:Israel is nothing but the US spy in the middle east.
Man, have you got it wrong.
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shadd_ wrote:who gives a fuck about israel? news flash for ya, the western world despises what they do as well.

what does israel have to do with the danes or norwegians?
I don't know how you could've sounded any dumber with that last comment. News flash for ya, Israel controls the west, you dumbass, they control Norway and Denmark too. Who gives a fuck about Israel? North America does, that's who. Without Israel, they'll crumble into the deep shit they're wallowing in. Israel is the puppet master, and without the strings to hold up Dubyah, you're all going to hell sooner than expected.
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Whoa whoa, Isreal controls not only the US but western europe and canada as well?? Shit I never knew...
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Captain Jihad wrote:
I don't know how you could've sounded any dumber with that last comment. News flash for ya, Israel controls the west, you dumbass, they control Norway and Denmark too. Who gives a fuck about Israel? North America does, that's who. Without Israel, they'll crumble into the deep shit they're wallowing in. Israel is the puppet master, and without the strings to hold up Dubyah, you're all going to hell sooner than expected.
youre more delusional than Ahmadinejad :icon27:
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