Networking two pc's

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:21 am

I've got 2 pcs, each with nics, and a Linksys NH1005 5-port hub. When I connect them together I get the limited or no connectivity alert. Both are running XP home SP2, one patched to sp2, the other original sp2 disc.

I know there is an issue with sp2 and networking like this. I've done some googling on it, but can't seem to find a solution. I've tried setting an ip for both and opening ports to no avail. My question is, is anyone familiar with this problem and know a workaround?

edit: I can give more specs if needed.

edit2: I have went through the XP connection setup wizard and set the same network name for both pcs and did all the needed sharing.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:28 am

assign the computers IP's on the same subnet for both, and they will be able to talk to eachother man..

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:31 am

I did that, they connect but it is very slow. I can play q3 between the two but if I try to transfer a file it's slower than dialup.

Post by **Kills On Site** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:30 am

Try disabling the Windows Firewall, that might stop your problems

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:32 am

Done that too. Downloaded a VPN sp2 patch that got rid of the limited conn. message but now when I have Windows Explorer open it hangs and I get a Dr.Watson error. I'll try transferring a flie again and get the exact error and the error file if possible.

edit: I tried running them with no firewalls on either machine.

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:54 am

Strange, no error this time. Took about 10 minutes to transfer a 32 mb file.

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:01 am

Oh, and this one locked up after I disconnected the two and connected this one back to the internet.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:23 am

i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:13 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.

I wasn't drinking and I don't drink coffee.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:50 pm

you said that they are hooked up between a hub right?

is the collision Light lighting up when it is sending?

have you tryed connecting a crossover cable instead of a Straight through

hub

straight through?

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:20 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:you said that they are hooked up between a hub right?

is the collision Light lighting up when it is sending?

have you tryed connecting a crossover cable instead of a Straight through hub straight through?

I haven't tried a crossover cable yet. There is no collision light on this hub. It only has lights for power, indicating connection, and another light telling you if it's running at 100 mb.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:40 pm

scourge34 wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.
I wasn't drinking and I don't drink coffee.

all lies

Post by **Scourge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:44 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
scourge34 wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.
I wasn't drinking and I don't drink coffee.
all lies

No, the sad truth is that I'm just a confused amatuer networker.

Post by **Scourge** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:52 am

One more thing. I can connect the hub between this pc and the cable modem and it connects to the internet at full speed. When I get a chance I will get a crossover cable and try that.

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:03 am

Get rid of the hub and get a switch or router.

Post by **Tormentius** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:29 am

File transfers are most likely slow because you're hooking up two PCs to the hub and the modem to the hub. If so, the PCs are probably getting live IPs.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:54 am

aye, good point.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:17 pm

i was going off of the thaught that it was Comp

hub

comp...

Not Comp

hub

innernet
Comp

Clarity would be key.

Post by **Oeloe** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:05 pm

DSL Modems often have integrated router functionality which isn't always that great. Connecting a DSL modem+router to my 3-computer network (all connected to an 8-port switch) gives terrible lag when i try to play a local game of CPMa. VQ3 lags less but on some maps it still gets jerky. So i suppose it's the cheap integrated router that messes up my Q3 LAN games?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:30 am

you rarely should have to be tweaking any MTU settings for a simple file sharing network. i blame the cruddy hub.

Post by **Scourge** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:26 am

Tormentius wrote:
File transfers are most likely slow because you're hooking up two PCs to the hub and the modem to the hub. If so, the PCs are probably getting live IPs.

I guess I confused the explanation. When I hooked the two pcs there was no modem in there anywhere. I tested the hub by putting it between one pc and the cable modem connected to the internet. Also, when I try to connect the two pcs, I'm not trying to connect to the internet in any way.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i was going off of the thaught that it was Comp hub comp...

Clarity would be key.

Yeah, that's what I have.

Post by **Scourge** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:45 am

riddla wrote:in that case one of the two PCs may indeed need to use a x-over.

I'll head over to the local store this weekend and grab one. May go ahead and grab a router as well. May put both on the internet. I'll report back when I have something to report one way or the other. Thanks for all the help guys.